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Message: [QUOTE="Matt Vaughan, post: 2002057, member: 34747"] Well, finally got all coordinated and ended up going to the casino with two of my friends, one of whom just turned 21 this week. Ironically, Michael, the one who just turned 21 has actually played in tribal casinos before. He placed 3rd in a $100 tourney and basically spewed off a bit in cash games lol. The other friend, Mark, is 23, has been to the casino but never played. We got there at about 3:30pm, so it was starting to get pretty bustling, but we didn't have to wait long for a table. Mark was decently nervous about sitting alone, so I just took the lower EV route (as a one time thing) and they managed to find us 3 seats at the same table. I was in seat 5, Michael was in seat 1, and Mark was in seat 9. Early on it went stupidly well. It was basically just us leeching the money off the rest of the table. We were all running pretty good in terms of starting hands, and weren't really having spots where we had to bump heads. After the first 2.5 hours, Mike was up ~$150, Mark was up ~$150, and I was up ~$300. After that it kinda went downhill. I raised KK in a straddled pot and got called by J7s, who flopped trip 7s, and the money went in. I then had a bit of a mis-step against my friend Mark where he min-raised the turn (warning bells went off but I convinced myself he had bluffs in his range) when I had top pair, and I rivered top+3rd pairs. He had top 2. But one of the more interesting spots was this one, which came a bit earlier in the session: UTG, MP2 limp in for $2. I'm on the button with KK and I raise to $12. The BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 folds. So we go 3way to the flop. (Pot: $37) Flop: 874r BB and UTG both check. The only hands I'm at all worried about here are 87s and 65s. Both BB and UTG are playing (relatively) tight though, and neither would slowplay a hand like that here. I bet out for $25. They both call, which surprised me, as I didn't think they would both be connecting with the board enough to call. Looked a lot like 8x, T9, maybe gutshots (from UTG) like JT, or A6 or A5. (Pot: $112) Turn: 2r BB and UTG both check again. That doesn't really surprise me this time. Since I still expect to be ahead of their range an enormous % of the time, I bet out. Disclaimer: I got into a bit of that "haze" that sometimes happens in big pots, and I COMPLETELY botched the sizing here. I made it $45 to play, and they both called. It's hard to narrow their ranges because I made it so cheap compared to the pot, but $45 still looks like a large bet, so in general I'd expect them to have 8x more frequently. (Pot: $247) River: 7r BB and UTG both check again. At first this looks like a scare card for me, but I don't think it really is. The only 7x that was strong enough to continue for 2 streets would have been 87, and I mostly rule it out because I think it leads out or check-raises the flop close to 100% of the time. So I decided that I had the best hand almost all the time, and even with an incorrect assumption about how they each would play 87 there. But here's where my turn sizing killed me. I didn't really setup a good river shove here, although it wasn't too bad. BB started with a bit under $300 and UTG started with a bit over $300 in the hand. So BB has roughly $175 now and UTG has about $200. I think I'm missing a ton of value when I do this, but again, wasn't thinking straight and clearly about the pot size, etc. I shoved (had them both covered, barely). In retrospect I really like a bet of like $100, since it still looks big but is way more likely to get crying calls from 8x. But again, I REALLY wish I had bet about $70 or $80 on the turn. If they both called $75, the pot would have been about $340, with an average of $150 behind. Then a river shove seems totally standard, but I guess no guarantee they even both call on the turn with the bigger sizing. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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