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Message: [QUOTE="Logan2, post: 2454176, member: 46244"] [LEFT]Agree that if we cb we can 2nd barrel as we can peek more equity on turn, although at that point (turn) not sure will be for value or making our hand a semi-bluff, also even if is a fish he can have AQ/KQ/JQ/QT (rest of Qx) /A9/97/sets/TT/JJ on flop, and on turn we going to pick up equity with a diamond which happen less than 20% but also we are not fist pumping if turn is T/J/A or spade, or if diamond is T/J/A, they are scare cards as are on villain range and beat our 2nd pair, so our outs not even clean, and are outs to get a draw that still need to hit on river if we are already behind, and our hand still is fragile on river vs same cards if no diamond (T/J/A/spade), yes our king help a little too but also could complete a s8 if have TJ, so when maybe we could get value on flop vs draws still think cb is thin as there is also a ton of hands that beat us. [/LEFT] [/QUOTE]