Did i play correct?!

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For the fella on UTG i know it's a loose donk, but about the fella on MP i don't know nothing (it looks very tight from that play):

So, bet from UTG, MP 3bet, i call (i thik that call was ok), but since UTG shove and MP call's i was think "i got them" and shove (i shove becouse MP call's only, i though that as a weakness).

It is there any mistake from my side...

 
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I think your only mistake was falling in love with Big Slick (A/K). It's not unusual in Poker that people play it, as it is an attractive hand to play, but in my mind A/K off suit is just another Ace Rag hand, and certainly not a hand I would go all-in with unless I was really struggling in the game, I much prefer playing any pocket pair over A/K.

In a Live game I had Pocket 9s on the BB and facing a raise from the player on the BTN and the SB calling I decided that the pot odds, 5 to 1 were enough for me to see the Flop, which came 8,9,10,.

SB checked, I checked on the BB and the player on the BTN shoved all-in, now I was in a dilemma, especially when the SB called the all-in bet, because I had hit trips with the middle card, Did the BTN player make his hand or even the SB make a hand, someone could have pocket 10s or a straight hand, so do I Call, Fold or just re-shove?

As I took a little time to consider my move the dealer burned off the next card, and I said "Whoa! Hold on, I have yet to play" he stopped while I took a little longer and decided I needed to see the Turn, so I called, a 10, came on the Turn, and the SB checked, after a few seconds I decided I had invested too much and needed to shove all-in, after all if the 10 had not improved the SB hand it certainly improved my trips into a full house So I moved all-in.
The SB called and the cards were turned over:-

SB had Jack Queen suited and had made a straight.
BB (me) had 9/9 therefore a Full House.
BTN player A/K Another player falling in love with an Ace rag hand.

Had the BTN player have shoved all-in Pre-Flop It would be a coin toss on who would call, If any of us, the SB possibly, but without knowing what the flop was going to be I would have considered folding that hand, and me sat with a Pocket pair was perhaps a little frightening if I thought he could have a bigger pocket pair like A/A or even 10/10

That is the reason I always say "I do not have a favourite hand" and if I did, A/K would certainly not be top of my list.

Did you make a mistake? Probably not! because if you had shoved all-in Pre-flop I think the Pocket Queens would have called you in any case, you were just unfortunate in that the Queens hit Trips and is was game over, But that is what makes Poker so much Fun! Who knows? Maybe next time the flop might be 10, Jack, Queen, giving you the straight!
 
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I think your only mistake was falling in love with Big Slick (A/K).
Yes, this can be considered as mistake - fall in "love". To be honest, I didn't even think that deeply. I was holding the AK though, not the AA (also lose).
Looking at my hand now, it seems like I played it on an emotional basis. I could have folded it before the flop, but then I didn't think about folding at all... There was euphoria (i was runnig good, that slick me): "I caught them." :LOL:

I like you analysis... thank you so much! 💓
 
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1. Alert time when MP raised... Call is OK, but at the same time you can ask question by 4-bet. If you get to see the flop you proceed accordingly, else you if you get a re-raise, AK is a fold. Cheap exit.
2. In case you call, and UTG raised and MP called... AK is a definite fold there. Both UTG (check raise) and MP (3-bet and big 4-bet call) are red flags and bound to show up with AA/KK/QQ or in case of lose players may be 99+. In either case doesn't make sense to invest so many blinds on a flip unless you are desperate to double up.
 
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When it comes to "AK" I think of Doyle Brunson and the following situation (I'll try to find that part):
It was a cash game; heads up - Doyle and some other fella; Doyle has a AK and other player shove all in preflop (i think) and Doyle fold it; the comentator said the AK is not instant all in...
 
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For the fella on UTG i know it's a loose donk, but about the fella on MP i don't know nothing (it looks very tight from that play):

So, bet from UTG, MP 3bet, i call (i thik that call was ok), but since UTG shove and MP call's i was think "i got them" and shove (i shove becouse MP call's only, i though that as a weakness).

It is there any mistake from my side...

Is this real money cash game? Or is it a tournament hand? Please, let us know.
 
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Yes, this can be considered as mistake - fall in "love". To be honest, I didn't even think that deeply. I was holding the AK though, not the AA (also lose).
Looking at my hand now, it seems like I played it on an emotional basis. I could have folded it before the flop, but then I didn't think about folding at all... There was euphoria (i was runnig good, that slick me): "I caught them." :LOL:

I like you analysis... thank you so much! 💓

You are Welcome!
I have to admit in my early days of playing Poker I made the same mistake many times, I suppose it was something I grew out of mentally, because I now understand Variance a lot better than I did, and control my emotions better.
Watching YouTube videos on "Rigged Games" used to have me concerned about some sites, but when you start to understand variance in Poker you can watch the same videos and laugh at them because the same things have happened to me:)
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It is cash game NL 50/100 zoom play money... (i don't play real money, yet)... have to practice.
That was my guess. 😅

Be aware you can practice with play money as much as you like but first playing for real money might still be very different.

In play money games, people tend to overcall and don't like folding since it's basically free money and they are not worried to lose it. 🤓
 
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You are Welcome!
I have to admit in my early days of playing Poker I made the same mistake many times, I suppose it was something I grew out of mentally, because I now understand Variance a lot better than I did, and control my emotions better.
Watching YouTube videos on "Rigged Games" used to have me concerned about some sites, but when you start to understand variance in Poker you can watch the same videos and laugh at them because the same things have happened to me:)
Good luck!
I will checked... Thank you...
That was my guess. 😅

Be aware you can practice with play money as much as you like but first playing for real money might still be very different.

In play money games, people tend to overcall and don't like folding since it's basically free money and they are not worried to lose it. 🤓
:) yeah, buddie...

Ain't big difrence for me from play money to real money - the players for recreation are in the both places.
It's good place for me to manage with the tilt...
 
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I did't find the part above (Doyle with the AK fold), so i applyed another one:

NL $200 zoom

 
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For the fella on UTG i know it's a loose donk, but about the fella on MP i don't know nothing (it looks very tight from that play):

So, bet from UTG, MP 3bet, i call (i thik that call was ok), but since UTG shove and MP call's i was think "i got them" and shove (i shove becouse MP call's only, i though that as a weakness).

It is there any mistake from my side...

Preflop, I would have raised the 800 re-raise to between 2000-2400 to rule out the 200 raise and the pot busters that followed (which happened), thus I play the 800 re-raiser for a stack.
Obviously, if your stack wasn't so dominant I might have played similarly to you.
 
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That was my guess. 😅

Be aware you can practice with play money as much as you like but first playing for real money might still be very different.

In play money games, people tend to overcall and don't like folding since it's basically free money and they are not worried to lose it. 🤓
Just adding a couple of things: sometimes players at the micros (real money) are worst than players at play money!
Play money is a wonderful resource for learning some basics of range, equity, position and opponents profile.
Most of players at these play money games are very passive or very aggressive; they overvalue their fictional chips and most of times they try to play “only nutted” hands.
Overall real money players are better than play money, but as I said, a huge didactic feature that can help us a lot.
If you feel you are killing spree at play money, try to play some freerolls. And if you feel it’s easy, go for real money.
One might say that Poker is only Poker when it’s real money. This might be true but play money is a tool for learning.

About your hand it was well played. I just think that we could’ve raised 4-bet when it comes to us before UTG jams. This is a classical cooler, keep on studying and participating on the forum and you will do okay.

Peace
 
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It is cash game NL 50/100 zoom play money... (i don't play real money, yet)... have to practice.
I already assumed that too, because someone who plays high buy-in or cash tournaments of that level, playing that AKo as you played it is donkey. Although they are still good cards to put all the chips in, all depending on the effective stack you have in tournaments.

Although certain rivals cannot overestimate this type of card. Although AKo sometimes beats Queens, note that your preflop win percentage is 35% versus QQ's 56%. And if you were facing an all in 1 to 1 your percentage goes up to 43% versus 56%.

To practice for play money, it is an option. Of course, when the cards are of the same suit (AKs) the percentages increase to 46% vs 53%.
 
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If you feel you are killing spree at play money, try to play some freerolls.
I'm not sure if I understand the meaning of the first sentence. I play freerolls at CC.
And if you feel it’s easy, go for real money.
It's not easy at all. it's hard to bluff in play money… if anyone doubts he can try, if want, at 5000/10000 or 100000/200000. But personal for me the hardest level remains 50/100.
One might say that Poker is only Poker when it’s real money. This might be true but play money is a tool for learning.
Poker is poker everywhere. I ain't see nothing wrong to play at play money (when all the table call's your 3 or 4bet, or all in with AA, and you miss all, the feeling is indescribable and unforgettable) - :) and prefer to play there (i have to beat them or they will beat me). Yes, usefull tool.
 
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I watched a replay of the hand. Before the cards opened, it was clear that the player in the MP position had a very strong hand. Perhaps UTG wanted to pick up the pot on the preflop. I would make an easy fold with AK. After all, two players have already placed a huge number of chips.
 
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I'm not sure if I understand the meaning of the first sentence. I play freerolls at CC.
If you feel that the games are very easy, you are killing spree.
I ain't see nothing wrong to play at play money
I also don’t see anything wrong at it. I like to play money to exercise and memorize passive tendencies. Currently I’m playing money for NLHE 400/1000000 😂 at pokerstars.
 
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good cards are a good start, but that's not all, we have to play against the player, watch how he plays, because sometimes good cards don't come for a long time and we have to use other tricks, such as bluff
 
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The old passion for AK that many people have, if only UTG had bet, ok, you had information about him, but the MP increased and his range was low, that is, he had top pair, it was risky, but a lot of people had gone with your hand!
 
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I'm curious - I've never seen one before NLHE 400 - where is this.
Your ID (profil) at PS did it is available for the search...
There are even higher limits than this. I play Zoom there. Maybe in England PokerStars is different.
 
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What I noticed the most is that the best starting hand won. Just food for thought.
 
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For the fella on UTG i know it's a loose donk, but about the fella on MP i don't know nothing (it looks very tight from that play):

So, bet from UTG, MP 3bet, i call (i thik that call was ok), but since UTG shove and MP call's i was think "i got them" and shove (i shove becouse MP call's only, i though that as a weakness).

It is there any mistake from my side...

Way too often I see players Jamming from any position with AK while in reality it is just Ax hoping to catch on the flop, here is an example of AK I caught in a local casino. I was button I get AK offsuit , one pre flop raiser I three bet she calls, flop comes AK7, she checks I bet she jams oh oh I have two top pair what could she have??? of course once I called I found out 777. so AK is just a good high hand and not the end of the world
 
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Interesting things happen at the tables this morning:

I realy wanted to shove, but: that would have been a possible loss of a third buy-in, and therefore leaving the game for today. I want to play little more...

And he/she seemed pretty, pretty strong...



And this one is classic:

 
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