MK_
Legend
Loyaler
....I think that is somewhat true preflop but postflop is a different story, your edge is generally going to come from finding weaker players, players who don't understand odds, don't understand omaha is a drawing game, players who either undervalue or overvalue hands... fortunately these players abound in Omaha👍
Gritz18
Legend
Loyaler
Who can answer you is @jonaselloco, he's always playing in these tournaments, the guy is a beast.
RhinoRyan89
Legend
Platinum Level
Hi all
I think PLO in general is a game of smaller edges then NLH.
Majority of the time you'll find yourself 60/40 or 70/30 spots alot less often you will see people getting there money in totally dead.
I would recommend Watching the Phil Galfond vs Dan the JungleMan Cates Heads up challange.
It may not be the stakes or format of PLO you play but its very insightful content.
Gl all and as always see you at the tables
I think PLO in general is a game of smaller edges then NLH.
Majority of the time you'll find yourself 60/40 or 70/30 spots alot less often you will see people getting there money in totally dead.
I would recommend Watching the Phil Galfond vs Dan the JungleMan Cates Heads up challange.
It may not be the stakes or format of PLO you play but its very insightful content.
Gl all and as always see you at the tables
QBAN92
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I understand. Will have to try to keep my eye on the opposition more.
Yes, this is something I need to work on. I tend to play bad hands when being card dead/stuck.
Thanks. Will keep an eye on him.
Have accidentally entered PLO8 games... and quickly exited. Checked the rules for the game now, but can't wrap my head around it lol
jonaselloco
Legend
Bronze Level
jonaselloco
Legend
Bronze Level
Hello brother
Accepting the invitation of my dear brother Cesar @Gritz18, I will try to give you a hand and explain some tips.
First: The nuts in general come out much more than in Hold em. When I refer to nuts it is the winning game on a river.
The nuts start from which cards you want to play the hand with.
For example: I will give you a couple of options to see what hand you would play strong with and what hand you would discard
I put some, to see what your answer is.
If I see that you pick well, then I'll see that you can get the nuts. Otherwise I will see why you cannot get the desired game.
Second: The game we most aspire to in general in Omaha and which is one of the games that gives me the most dividends, at least, is full house.
Because I tell you this. Because the full house, besides being one of the best games in poker, is a game that in Omaha is too favorable. Because in Omaha there are always straight possibilities, flush possibilities, and when the full house possibility appears, it is very difficult for you not to find an opponent who has a flush or a straight and they call.
In general, boats where there is a full house are the best.
What's more, when I play and I see that there is a possibility of a full house at the showdown, and I don't have the possibility of making it happen, I fold directly from the flop.
Third: There is a fairly common mistake in Omaha. In general, those who have
or preflop go to very large bets and in truth, any other moderately acceptable combination such as can beat them.All this happens because there is a lot of variety in the community cards. So if you have Goddess luck that even something comes out of your game, you always have a great chance of achieving it.
The great possibility of achieving your game is knowing very well mathematically the calculation of odds with great precision, in addition to calculating, for example, on the flop what possible cards could come on the turn or river and what you have to fold.
I will give you an example:
you have
and the flop comes Well you would tell me that you have the top pair and that's fine.
But your rival raises the postflop bet to the pot, another one that entered the hand calls, and you, would you call???
I in particular in that hand would not do it, I would fold directly.
The bet is very strong for the variety of odds that can understand my opponents. Just thinking that you have odds of a possible flush and I don't have that possibility, I'm already losing there.
Finally, Hold em is a game that luck must often be with you.
In Omaha it is also like that but on a much smaller scale.
Because the combination of cards that you have in hand plus the community ones usually mean that you can almost always have the possibility of achieving the pot.
If you see the mathematical variables very well, you will have a good chance of winning.
Well brother, then the rest is known, the same as Hold em, try to see the table, study it, control your opponents as much as possible, etc. And above all, don't call even a BB with bad card combinations in your hand preflop.
Greetings brother and see you
MK_
Legend
Loyaler
..this right here,👍
QBAN92
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I would discard K983 and play the other hands. Is the J1098 off suit ok to play?Hello brother
Accepting the invitation of my dear brother Cesar @Gritz18, I will try to give you a hand and explain some tips.
First: The nuts in general come out much more than in Hold em. When I refer to nuts it is the winning game on a river.
The nuts start from which cards you want to play the hand with.
For example: I will give you a couple of options to see what hand you would play strong with and what hand you would discard
I put some, to see what your answer is.
If I see that you pick well, then I'll see that you can get the nuts. Otherwise I will see why you cannot get the desired game.
Second: The game we most aspire to in general in Omaha and which is one of the games that gives me the most dividends, at least, is full house.
Because I tell you this. Because the full house, besides being one of the best games in poker, is a game that in Omaha is too favorable. Because in Omaha there are always straight possibilities, flush possibilities, and when the full house possibility appears, it is very difficult for you not to find an opponent who has a flush or a straight and they call.
In general, boats where there is a full house are the best.
What's more, when I play and I see that there is a possibility of a full house at the showdown, and I don't have the possibility of making it happen, I fold directly from the flop.
Third: There is a fairly common mistake in Omaha. In general, those who have
All this happens because there is a lot of variety in the community cards. So if you have Goddess luck that even something comes out of your game, you always have a great chance of achieving it.
The great possibility of achieving your game is knowing very well mathematically the calculation of odds with great precision, in addition to calculating, for example, on the flop what possible cards could come on the turn or river and what you have to fold.
I will give you an example:
you have
Well you would tell me that you have the top pair and that's fine.
But your rival raises the postflop bet to the pot, another one that entered the hand calls, and you, would you call???
I in particular in that hand would not do it, I would fold directly.
The bet is very strong for the variety of odds that can understand my opponents. Just thinking that you have odds of a possible flush and I don't have that possibility, I'm already losing there.
Finally, Hold em is a game that luck must often be with you.
In Omaha it is also like that but on a much smaller scale.
Because the combination of cards that you have in hand plus the community ones usually mean that you can almost always have the possibility of achieving the pot.
If you see the mathematical variables very well, you will have a good chance of winning.
Well brother, then the rest is known, the same as Hold em, try to see the table, study it, control your opponents as much as possible, etc. And above all, don't call even a BB with bad card combinations in your hand preflop.
Greetings brother and see you
Thank you for your insights. I agree with the dangers of playing high pairs such as AA since it can easily be cracked by drawing hands. But you still think it is the most optimal to go for full houses if I have understood you correctly?
Thanks for your insights.
jonaselloco
Legend
Bronze Level
Hello brother
If so, good discard.
For me, all of those are playable, except the one you pointed out.
Of all for me the best are hands 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
If I would go all in I would go with hands 2 and 3.
I gave you an example that the best hands to play are those with a high pair and two straight and flush draws.
For example, for me the best hand would be or
If, when you have a chance of a full house against you at the table, that is, a card is repeated in the community, you should be very careful.
for example if you have in community
you're going to have a lot of players who go with intro your cards inclusive
you must handle all the ranges of possibilities in which the villain can beat you
Full house is a game that comes out a lot and you have to be very careful.
Greetings brother, for nothing ask me what you want
If so, good discard.
For me, all of those are playable, except the one you pointed out.
Of all for me the best are hands 1, 2, 3, 6, 7.
If I would go all in I would go with hands 2 and 3.
I gave you an example that the best hands to play are those with a high pair and two straight and flush draws.
For example, for me the best hand would be
or If, when you have a chance of a full house against you at the table, that is, a card is repeated in the community, you should be very careful.
for example if you have in community
you're going to have a lot of players who go with
intro your cards inclusive you must handle all the ranges of possibilities in which the villain can beat you
Full house is a game that comes out a lot and you have to be very careful.
Greetings brother, for nothing ask me what you want
ScooperNova
Hair in a Biscuit
Loyaler
The equity margins are going to be slimmer. Play strong starting hands...you can look at the charts, but be sure to know how versatile some hands can be, especially when you can see flops for free. Nuclear wraps are favored over top set. Pot control is very difficult in PLO, depending on opponents, but wider margins can obviously be realized on later streets. Just don't go into PLO thinking you need to get it all in preflop with power hands every time, because you'll be lucky to get it in at 60/40 preflop.
