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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
 
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What's the size of your bankroll—20 times, 30 times, or 40 times the big blind? Wondering?
If you haven't tracked your BB/100 before, it's wise to lean towards a 40x bankroll for a more cautious approach. However, if you've got your winning rate data, you can amp up the aggression.

How many hands have you logged so far?
To get a solid read on your poker skills or detect any significant issues, you're looking at a minimum of 100,000 hands.

And why limit yourself to playing against those two players? How did you figure out their tendencies to only go for pocket pairs or suited connectors? It's a bit puzzling.
 
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I'm not a great poker player, so take this advice with a grain of salt. By far the biggest change that has allowed me to be profitable in cash games has been to not chase marginal hands where there is a lot of action involving aggressive players. That's it. Other than that, just basic ABC poker.
 
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Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
What is your bank roll? 1/3 means nothing when we don't know how much you lost. Are you properly rolled for the stakes you are playing at?
 
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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
Easy game to beat.

The first category you attack their blinds and don't call or pay them off when they bet unless you have a very good hand.

The second category you don't bluff and value-bet thinner.

Your statement that they always catch it on the river is of course either untrue or negative variance.
 
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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
I recommend switching tables. If someone's luck is endless it's often better to pick another table rather than trying getting it back from the lucky fish and risking getting tilt
 
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What is the site that you play? Look what you changed from the time you were being profitable to now. You already are in the middle of the way, you already knows how your adversaries behave just look for a way to exploit it.
 
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Thank you very much to all of you. I have a bankroll of 180$ (I know not much). It was growing slowly from 40$ in like 5-6 months. In the last month, it dropped to 120$ in cash game (2nl, 5nl). Is it just variance? Everyone seems to have the nuts every time against me in the last few weeks.
 
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Easy game to beat.

The first category you attack their blinds and don't call or pay them off when they bet unless you have a very good hand.

The second category you don't bluff and value-bet thinner.

Your statement that they always catch it on the river is of course either untrue or negative variance.
It must be variance. I like the advice of value-bet thinner. I think in the last few weeks I was quite patient but my value-bets on the turn was maybe a bit high. It's hard to fold when half your stack is in the pot (even if you know the river card is a killer for you).
 
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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
It means you're just not working very hard. Spend at least a couple of hours a day studying, watch hand analyzes and streams of cash players.
 
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Thank you very much to all of you. I have a bankroll of 180$ (I know not much). It was growing slowly from 40$ in like 5-6 months. In the last month, it dropped to 120$ in cash game (2nl, 5nl). Is it just variance? Everyone seems to have the nuts every time against me in the last few weeks.
I think you will have to have an honest conversation with yourself to answer that question. I've heard the figure of 30 buy-in swings being thrown around before. At 5NL that's up to $150. Personally I think it's more likely to be due to playing too aggressively and maybe trying to speed up your growing bankroll to the point where you started changing how you normally play.
 
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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
Don't try to bluff them. Bluff as less as possible and continue with your TAG strategy. You are right there are these two profiles of players that play only pocket pairs and AK, but there are others. Work on trying to identify more profiles and tag your opponents.
 
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Have a well-defined pre flop range. Don't try to make bluffs or crazy plays. Play a solid plan and follow the strategy.

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Thank you very much to all of you. I have a bankroll of 180$ (I know not much). It was growing slowly from 40$ in like 5-6 months. In the last month, it dropped to 120$ in cash game (2nl, 5nl). Is it just variance?
Yes its just variance. 60$ is only 12 BIs for 5NL and 30 BIs for 2NL. So if you play a mix of these two stakes, your loss is somewhere between 12-30 BIs, lets just say 20 BIs for arguments sake. And such losses are completely normal. They happen like literally all the time. This is why, even the most aggressive suggestions for bankroll management say, you should have 20-30 BIs in your bankroll. Which you did, and this is why, you are not broke. So everything is fine, and you just need to learn, that you are not always going to sunrun. Check out this free variance calculator:

Everyone seems to have the nuts every time against me in the last few weeks.
Yes that is part of variance. Sometimes they always flop a set, when we have two pair, they river their flush, or they have AA preflop, when we have AK. And then we just reload and play on. Or buy into another tournament, if we are a tournament player.
 
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I suggest to improve your game preflop, and think about the range if your equality it's better than your opponents, then your game will be profitable.
I suggest to you to have patience to find the best board, and to hit yours nuts.
I working now on the patience, and working on what hands to open, and thinking about position.
Sometimes you should be ready to fold your hands, even for 1 hour if you didn't get solids hands.
I'ts a lot of work to be a profitable player just have patience poker it's a distance game if you're playing right the distance time by time Poker will pay you with some profits.
I working now as well at micro limits MTT, and I hope i'll beat them as soon as possible.
 
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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
if you're playing very small stakes you can win every session yet still lose a third of your bankroll to the rake.
 
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The worst opponents are those who rely too much on low or unrepresentative cards, bet all hands, waiting for luck to come, they are not poker players but bingo players, be careful, analyze each game and its moves, good luck
 
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Don't throw your money in the trash, throw your knowledge, techniques and skills at poker
 
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The micros should be very beatable if you have a good strategy even though the rake is very high.

You will get a lot of players playing any hand so the best advice is to target the loose players who are happy to call off 2nd pair or worse.

There will always be bad beats so you must make sure you bankroll can handle these.
 
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Does (2nl, 5nl) mean blindes $0.02/$0.05 or blindes 2$/5$?
I think it is the first as I don't think 2$/5$ BB can be called "micro" cash game.

Checking the rake on 888 - it's incredible 5% - even 6.25% for $0.01/$0.02, With this rake the only winner is the poker site....
 
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I had a similar problem. Somehow I even lost 50% of my bankroll. And I found a solution. I just gave up cash games, focused on tournaments and now I have consistently good results :)
 
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Play a strong range so when you catch these calling station players you will be killing them.

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I'm working hard to get good at poker. I tried to play a TAG style at the micro but I only play against 2 types of poker player. Those who only play pocket pairs and AK. The other type is those who play every suited card (even 2-9s) and it's impossible to get them to fold and they catch it on the river.

Is it just a bad beat? Since the last month I've lost 1/3 of my bankroll. Before that it was a slow and steady rise.
You need a solid game style and most importanly a strong preflop
 
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Its a lot of different type of players many of them it's just giving to you all their stack at micro limits gamming.
Its better to play good hands, and to wait for premium hands, and open them very carefully, and find the better situation to put your stack all in.
You should be very carefully of the position, and what hands you can open.
Time by time if you getting a lot of bad beats, this is just a game, and try to avoid your tilt leave the game for 1-2 days, and come back at the tables.
Distance will give to you a good prizes just have a patience.

You're on the right place where you can learn more about poker just keep posting, and share your opinion with us.
 
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