Fast fold cash games with or without a tracker

[Suns of Beaches]

Opinions on this? Do people beat this format even without a tracker?

 

[Lena M]

These are bingo games. Everything is decided by luck and skills are not fundamentally important
Just bingo games.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

These are bingo games. Everything is decided by luck and skills are not fundamentally important
Just bingo games.

No they are not and there are many proven. long-term winners who are winning over large samples.

So u can't beat them is what u are saying? Did u use a tracker? Did u try to beat it over many hands?

 

[Highfish]

I like those games. You can really make volume there.
As a German player, I can only play 4 tables due to the regulations of our excellent politicians.
If I play four “normal” tables, I die of boredom.

It's good for me that there are fast fold games.

 

[Station_Master]

Certainly beatable if you play at the right stake for your skill level. With or without a tracker, but obviously easier to have one to help build reads on your opponents.

 

[WrongUsername]

boring games, boring format, rake so high, but of course is beatable game

 

[Suns of Beaches]

boring games, boring format, rake so high, but of course is beatable game

But is rake really higher then in other cash games? I think I read that on GG the rake in fast fold games is lower.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

Certainly beatable if you play at the right stake for your skill level. With or without a tracker, but obviously easier to have one to help build reads on your opponents.

I tried to beat this format years ago on pokerstars and gave up after a massive tilt session where I lost several hundred dollars.

Everything just tells me that u need a tracker to really play this format comfortably, especially in bigger pools with a lot of unknown opponents.

Do u play it? I really like the availability and I'm thinking of slowly getting back into it.

 

[Station_Master]

I tried to beat this format years ago on pokerstars and gave up after a massive tilt session where I lost several hundred dollars.

Everything just tells me that u need a tracker to really play this format comfortably, especially in bigger pools with a lot of unknown opponents.

Do u play it? I really like the availability and I'm thinking of slowly getting back into it.

A little bit. I mainly play reg tables, but these days I will load up a bit zoom whilst on waiting lists for reg tables. I quite like the speed of the game and the pool I play (25z on 888) is usually quite soft.

I don't have tons of hands on my.opponents yet so tracker is only.of limited use, but definitely worth using one as some info always better than none.

 

[player4533456]

I do beat them without a tracker at party. It's hard work though, watching hands play out, taking a ton of notes, and only playing when the pool isn't massive.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

I like those games. You can really make volume there.
As a German player, I can only play 4 tables due to the regulations of our excellent politicians.
If I play four “normal” tables, I die of boredom.

It's good for me that there are fast fold games.

Can u play more then 4 fast on multiple sites at the same time or are u seitenübergreifend limited?

 

[Poker Orifice]

Opinions on this? Do people beat this format even without a tracker?

Yes.
I play 'fast-fold' format on a lot of sites... most don't allow trackers.

partypoker has smaller player pool and is great to play on for 2nl, 10nl & 25nl. I've built my bankroll up on there from $100 to $1k+ a bunch of times.
I'm taking notes on there regularly... it doesn't take long to see who the regulars are. It's helpful to have a color-coding system.

I also play 888Poker 'SNAP', SportsBetting ' ACR, GG, Stars, iPoker, and occasionally WPTglobal (Pace... they only have 1 buyin level that gets any players in it, it's 5nl with a straddle so it's basically 10nl)

Any & all are beatable without a tracker (and some you can't use a Tracker). Time of day along with day of the week can make a BIG difference in how the tables play out.

 

[tabaskichhh]

in my opinion, fast pass poker is not a very beggarly choice, since you fall under the stronger effects of dispersion

 

[Highfish]

Can u play more then 4 fast on multiple sites at the same time or are u seitenübergreifend limited?

4 tables max no matter how many sites I open.

 

[enno]

I remember in the old days playing fast fold on FullTilt and seemed to enjoy it, but played mainly as a novelty.
Now, if you maintain a VPIP of 15 - 25% and watch your PFR%, it might be something to consider as being profitable over a long period of time. Also keep track of your opponents.
Wouldn’t this be similar to playing 3-4 tables at once?

 

[Poker Orifice]

I remember in the old days playing fast fold on FullTilt and seemed to enjoy it, but played mainly as a novelty.
Now, if you maintain a VPIP of 15 - 25% and watch your PFR%, it might be something to consider as being profitable over a long period of time. Also keep track of your opponents.
Wouldn’t this be similar to playing 3-4 tables at once?

Yes on Fulltilt it was called "Rush Poker"

On 1 Fast Fold table you can see approx. 200-225 hands/hr. but it really depends upon which site (so yes, approx. equivalent to 3 tables).
These days all of the regulars on the fast fold tables are playing 6-max and are 4-tabling them (seeing ~900 hands/hr.)

 

[Suns of Beaches]

4 tables max no matter how many sites I open.

U could add some unregulated sites if u want to play more tables.

 

[ruffcut68]

Yes.
I play 'fast-fold' format on a lot of sites... most don't allow trackers.

Partypoker has smaller player pool and is great to play on for 2nl, 10nl & 25nl. I've built my bankroll up on there from $100 to $1k+ a bunch of times.
I'm taking notes on there regularly... it doesn't take long to see who the regulars are. It's helpful to have a color-coding system.

I also play 888Poker 'SNAP', SportsBetting ' ACR, GG, Stars, iPoker, and occasionally WPTglobal (Pace... they only have 1 buyin level that gets any players in it, it's 5nl with a straddle so it's basically 10nl)

Any & all are beatable without a tracker (and some you can't use a Tracker). Time of day along with day of the week can make a BIG difference in how the tables play out.

Yes. im playing 5nl and win rate is 16bb/100 . Small sample.