It’s not rigged but I understand it.... Tested my understanding and well.... 4.5% my way!

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I just took a chance at sucking out knowing I was behind because I have a pre session procedures that dictates when or if I play cash. Before I drop the hand I'm going to let it be known that I play poker to the most extreme of situations... I play for 2 to 4 days straight at a time. Through doing this I’ve come to notice certain patterns and coincidences that fridge in the realm of unfathomable however that said, they’ve occurred, I've witnessed and with that additional awareness I’ve adapted my interactions. Before I sat down to anything, though I did play a $5 Demand on my ipad while playing a couple of comps on my laptop on PartyP, I went through my pre play toe dip into water on how the system will be treating me after logging in on my laptop (busted on PartyP in both) and all green lights with the additional bonus that I’m due luck against whatever the percentages against me are... This is real talk, I expect reticule for this but it’s the truth so its being told and I’m behind it...

I few hands in and this is the hand I’m unlucky enough to get into. I know from the flop that he has the Q and me beat at present however, due to my pre game test and the fact I’ve been doing the test since I became aware and thus far I’ve not been wrong in my findings, I did the unthinkable and chose to get it in bad (I made a profit from my ore game test and considered my buy in free rolling as everything from the 2 entries of $5 Demand including the stack in front of me). I’d love to tell you what ive come to understand when’s it comes to systems, I’ll just say my brain is technically a super computer with static corrupted RAM. I took a pic and have the hand below and I swear I got it in bad with the 100% belief I’d spike a J on the river.... And I did....

Schematics is all I see in most things, programs have a quota, maybe I just have additional senses that are unexplainable but the fact I did this and defied the 95.5% favourite because I instinctively knew from my pre session recon is yet another’s occasion my awareness and instants haven’t failed me...

pokerstars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $27.66 (111 bb)
MP: $23.45 (94 bb)
CO (Hero): $24.90 (100 bb)

BU: $25.00 (100 bb)
SB: $27.27 (109 bb)
BB: $28.02 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero 3-bets to $2.10, 3 players fold, MP calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.55) 2 5 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.87, MP calls $2.87

Turn: ($10.29) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.49, MP raises to $18.48 (all-in), Hero calls $11.99

River:
($47.25) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47.25 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
MP shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins $45.25
 

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A few of my later involvements, will also note I had AA twice and received no action and a flopped flush w/QTs which became a straight on the turn. Been playing less than 15min
 

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Ok, so you're saying you're able to play in a way that beats the algorithms? If so, for how long? And how useful is it / how much money can you make?

And an even bigger question: if you are so sure that you found something exploitable with the RNG, why post about it here? Why not go and make millions of dollars instead before you get kicked off the poker room?

I think you'll have to be pretty consistent with this before anyone believes you have something more than a few statistically normal suckouts.
 
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Ok, so you're saying you're able to play in a way that beats the algorithms? If so, for how long? And how useful is it / how much money can you make?

I think you'll have to be pretty consistent with this before anyone believes you have something more than a few statistically normal suckouts.
I’ve been playing with the knowledge since Tuesday, and I wouldn’t say "beat" more playing aware of it. I’ve completely changed the way I play online and after my itial deposit to begin the run I’ve been on fire. I invested as waste £150 on a site not to do with poker to test what I had started to realise about 11- 13 days ago and was shocked that it did what my findings had concluded. My account in this instance has $646.55 with $68.35 on the table I’m currently playing on... I jumped on to drop these Hold Your Breath moments where I kept my dominance and was sucked out on... the second one how neither has an A baffles me, though a weak suited A would fold also as my bet wasn’t messing about lol. Ive had a ridiculous number of premium pairs, coolers in my favour. JJ about 3/4 times, QQ 3 times, KK 3 times and AA twice I think.. Just finishing my 4 laps of the promotion then taking my 300bb stack off the table and playing NLHE16 as it’s got an active boost at present.


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG (Hero): $51.34 (205 bb)
MP: $9.71 (39 bb)

CO: $22.58 (90 bb)
BU: $27.93 (112 bb)
SB: $38.82 (155 bb)
BB: $43.54 (174 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $0.55, MP calls $0.55, 3 players fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.75) 4 2 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1.67, BB calls $1.67, Hero raises to $6.08, MP raises to $9.16 (all-in), BB folds, Hero calls $3.08

Turn:
($21.74) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.74) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.74 (Rake: $0.98)

Showdown:
MP shows Q K (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

UTG (Hero) shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

UTG (Hero) wins $20.76


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UTG: $34.55 (138 bb)
MP: $29.52 (118 bb)
CO: $34.32 (137 bb)
BU (Hero): $62.49 (250 bb)
SB: $28.72 (115 bb)
BB: $18.48 (74 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to $0.62, MP calls $0.62, CO calls $0.62, Hero 3-bets to $2.70, 2 players fold, UTG calls $2.08, MP calls $2.08, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.07) 3 A 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5.72, 2 players fold

Total pot: $9.07 (Rake: $0.41)
BU (Hero) wins $8.66


Part one of session complete, $60ish profits so far... on to 8/16 for the bonus. Lol scrap that there are only 5 people in the limit which is why it’s offering a boost. SnG time o suppose....
 

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I’ve been playing with the knowledge since Tuesday, and I wouldn’t say "beat" more playing aware of it. I’ve completely changed the way I play online and after my itial deposit to begin the run I’ve been on fire. I invested as waste £150 on a site not to do with poker to test what I had started to realise about 11- 13 days ago and was shocked that it did what my findings had concluded. My account in this instance has $646.55 with $68.35 on the table I’m currently playing on... I jumped on to drop these Hold Your Breath moments where I kept my dominance and was sucked out on... the second one how neither has an A baffles me, though a weak suited A would fold also as my bet wasn’t messing about lol. Ive had a ridiculous number of premium pairs, coolers in my favour. JJ about 3/4 times, QQ 3 times, KK 3 times and AA twice I think.. Just finishing my 4 laps of the promotion then taking my 300bb stack off the table and playing NLHE16 as it’s got an active boost at present.


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG (Hero): $51.34 (205 bb)
MP: $9.71 (39 bb)

CO: $22.58 (90 bb)
BU: $27.93 (112 bb)
SB: $38.82 (155 bb)
BB: $43.54 (174 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $0.55, MP calls $0.55, 3 players fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.75) 4 2 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1.67, BB calls $1.67, Hero raises to $6.08, MP raises to $9.16 (all-in), BB folds, Hero calls $3.08

Turn:
($21.74) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.74) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.74 (Rake: $0.98)

Showdown:
MP shows Q K (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 52%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

UTG (Hero) shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 48%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

UTG (Hero) wins $20.76


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $34.55 (138 bb)
MP: $29.52 (118 bb)
CO: $34.32 (137 bb)
BU (Hero): $62.49 (250 bb)
SB: $28.72 (115 bb)
BB: $18.48 (74 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to $0.62, MP calls $0.62, CO calls $0.62, Hero 3-bets to $2.70, 2 players fold, UTG calls $2.08, MP calls $2.08, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.07) 3 A 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5.72, 2 players fold

Total pot: $9.07 (Rake: $0.41)
BU (Hero) wins $8.66


Part one of session complete, $60ish profits so far... on to 8/16 for the bonus. Lol scrap that there are only 5 people in the limit which is why it’s offering a boost. SnG time o suppose....
SnG or just keep climbing the stakes in cash? Hope it keeps working for you.
 
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I just took a chance at sucking out knowing I was behind because I have a pre session procedures that dictates when or if I play cash. Before I drop the hand I'm going to let it be known that I play poker to the most extreme of situations... I play for 2 to 4 days straight at a time. Through doing this I’ve come to notice certain patterns and coincidences that fridge in the realm of unfathomable however that said, they’ve occurred, I've witnessed and with that additional awareness I’ve adapted my interactions. Before I sat down to anything, though I did play a $5 Demand on my iPad while playing a couple of comps on my laptop on PartyP, I went through my pre play toe dip into water on how the system will be treating me after logging in on my laptop (busted on PartyP in both) and all green lights with the additional bonus that I’m due luck against whatever the percentages against me are... This is real talk, I expect reticule for this but it’s the truth so its being told and I’m behind it...

I few hands in and this is the hand I’m unlucky enough to get into. I know from the flop that he has the Q and me beat at present however, due to my pre game test and the fact I’ve been doing the test since I became aware and thus far I’ve not been wrong in my findings, I did the unthinkable and chose to get it in bad (I made a profit from my ore game test and considered my buy in free rolling as everything from the 2 entries of $5 Demand including the stack in front of me). I’d love to tell you what ive come to understand when’s it comes to systems, I’ll just say my brain is technically a super computer with static corrupted RAM. I took a pic and have the hand below and I swear I got it in bad with the 100% belief I’d spike a J on the river.... And I did....

Schematics is all I see in most things, programs have a quota, maybe I just have additional senses that are unexplainable but the fact I did this and defied the 95.5% favourite because I instinctively knew from my pre session recon is yet another’s occasion my awareness and instants haven’t failed me...

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $27.66 (111 bb)
MP: $23.45 (94 bb)
CO (Hero): $24.90 (100 bb)

BU: $25.00 (100 bb)
SB: $27.27 (109 bb)
BB: $28.02 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero 3-bets to $2.10, 3 players fold, MP calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.55) 2 5 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.87, MP calls $2.87

Turn: ($10.29) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.49, MP raises to $18.48 (all-in), Hero calls $11.99

River:
($47.25) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47.25 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
MP shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins $45.25
Very nice , but I call that being lucky :)
It won't last if you rely on your intuition all the time.
 
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It is possible that a well-defined algorithm can sometimes make your 5% equity allow you to win. But the serious question: When will this happen and when not? This last one I think is random, otherwise it would not be a serious game. And I don't think any poker company wants to dirty their name at the risk of being banned. Don't trust these things. You could lose more money trying to investigate and it really isn't worth it. Instead concentrate on playing your best poker.
Greetings.
 
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Its very hard to read through that first wall of text and ur other posts (my eyes still hurt tbh) but i can tell u:

U are on to something very big here. Looks like u really exploited their algorythm and soon u should be rich.
 
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I just took a chance at sucking out knowing I was behind because I have a pre session procedures that dictates when or if I play cash. Before I drop the hand I'm going to let it be known that I play poker to the most extreme of situations... I play for 2 to 4 days straight at a time. Through doing this I’ve come to notice certain patterns and coincidences that fridge in the realm of unfathomable however that said, they’ve occurred, I've witnessed and with that additional awareness I’ve adapted my interactions. Before I sat down to anything, though I did play a $5 Demand on my iPad while playing a couple of comps on my laptop on PartyP, I went through my pre play toe dip into water on how the system will be treating me after logging in on my laptop (busted on PartyP in both) and all green lights with the additional bonus that I’m due luck against whatever the percentages against me are... This is real talk, I expect reticule for this but it’s the truth so its being told and I’m behind it...

I few hands in and this is the hand I’m unlucky enough to get into. I know from the flop that he has the Q and me beat at present however, due to my pre game test and the fact I’ve been doing the test since I became aware and thus far I’ve not been wrong in my findings, I did the unthinkable and chose to get it in bad (I made a profit from my ore game test and considered my buy in free rolling as everything from the 2 entries of $5 Demand including the stack in front of me). I’d love to tell you what ive come to understand when’s it comes to systems, I’ll just say my brain is technically a super computer with static corrupted RAM. I took a pic and have the hand below and I swear I got it in bad with the 100% belief I’d spike a J on the river.... And I did....

Schematics is all I see in most things, programs have a quota, maybe I just have additional senses that are unexplainable but the fact I did this and defied the 95.5% favourite because I instinctively knew from my pre session recon is yet another’s occasion my awareness and instants haven’t failed me...

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: $27.66 (111 bb)
MP: $23.45 (94 bb)
CO (Hero): $24.90 (100 bb)

BU: $25.00 (100 bb)
SB: $27.27 (109 bb)
BB: $28.02 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero 3-bets to $2.10, 3 players fold, MP calls $1.35

Flop: ($4.55) 2 5 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.87, MP calls $2.87

Turn: ($10.29) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6.49, MP raises to $18.48 (all-in), Hero calls $11.99

River:
($47.25) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47.25 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
MP shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins $45.25
As you are an experienced player let me just put it this way: preflop and flop action were fine. OTT we should consider folding when villain jams, we have just a few outs and villain is almost full stack (94 BB when the hand began).
As the hand display clearly shown that on the flop we had 54% equity só fine. On the river we are calling a jam where we are going to lose 95% of times, a losing call in the long run.
 
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It is possible that a well-defined algorithm can sometimes make your 5% equity allow you to win. But the serious question: When will this happen and when not? This last one I think is random, otherwise it would not be a serious game. And I don't think any poker company wants to dirty their name at the risk of being banned. Don't trust these things. You could lose more money trying to investigate and it really isn't worth it. Instead concentrate on playing your best poker.
Greetings.
I appreciate your comments but I’ve spent an extensively long time analysing this anomaly. It’s a programming related instance on the whole but there are other inconsistencies elsewhere but that’s not relevant here. I was absolutely sure that because of my pre session tests I’d suck out and I did.... what else I can say about it!?... I don’t know. As for wether the company is complicit in said anomaly, they wouldn’t be, it’s part of the algorithms make up.... Call it a glitch if you like...
 
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As you are an experienced player let me just put it this way: preflop and flop action were fine. OTT we should consider folding when villain jams, we have just a few outs and villain is almost full stack (94 BB when the hand began).
As the hand display clearly shown that on the flop we had 54% equity só fine. On the river we are calling a jam where we are going to lose 95% of times, a losing call in the long run.
Lol, I don’t call that ever usually. I called it because after my pre play test of the software I deemed that I was 100% going to suck out. The buy in, in front of me was part of the spoils from the successful test, so I because I am behind what i’ve come to discover called it to see if I would indeed river the J.... dude, I’ve never been so flabbergasted as I was as it dropped. I went to type and send the written comment but all in restriction lol..it’s there though, I thought I lost it and wrote it in replay.... Is what it is...
 
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I deemed that I was 100% going to suck out. dude, I’ve never been so flabbergasted as I was as it dropped.
Knows he is going to suckout on river & because of this he calls it off as ~20to1 dog

Hit what he 100% knew he was going to hit... but was flabbergasted. Why? Why flabbergasted? I mean I could see if you were only like 99% sure but you even stated 100% sure.

This is confusing... My head hurts
 
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Knows he is going to suckout on river & because of this he calls it off as ~20to1 dog

Hit what he 100% knew he was going to hit... but was flabbergasted. Why? Why flabbergasted? I mean I could see if you were only like 99% sure but you even stated 100% sure.

This is confusing... My head hurts
Flabbergasted because me being wrong would be an easier pill swallow..... the implications.
 
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A similar spot happened here, fish shoves his pocket aces on the turn in a huge deep stack pot having barely 5% equity to the river:


The main difference is that villain/fish shoved in a spectacular negative EV scenario (stacking over 350 BB), and you have called a jam.
 
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Good Luck but fact is when the brain suffers from sleep deprivation one starts to see all kinds of patterns
 
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