horrible spew of chips?

[myxiplx]

Didn't have a read of Et3rnityx, had a feeling I was behind when they called my raise on the flop, but couldn't put them on a hand. Thought long & hard but in the end made a curiosity call. They said afterwards they were hoping someone had the 8.

Pretty horrible play throughout, should I have trusted my instincts and folded trips here?


***** Hand History for Game 5538933036 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 28, 04:56:05 ET 2006
Table Table 125536 (real money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: coat_tugger ( $49.65 )
Seat 3: sinsyn ( $9.25 )
Seat 4: PeterAnttila ( $37.65 )
Seat 5: Thomas64091 ( $9.25 )
Seat 6: f1uktaren ( $48.50 )
Seat 7: Mr_Busted ( $57.25 )
Seat 8: myxiplx ( $50.90 )
Seat 9: Pool_king111 ( $53.55 )
Seat 10: Et3rnityx ( $41.25 )
Seat 2: Tiger_Soft23 ( $30 )
Mr_Busted posts small blind [$0.25].
myxiplx posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to myxiplx [ 8d 7s ]
Pool_king111 folds
Et3rnityx calls [$0.50]
coat_tugger folds
sinsyn calls [$0.50]
PeterAnttila calls [$0.50]
Thomas64091 folds
f1uktaren folds
Mr_Busted calls [$0.25]
myxiplx checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 4d, 8h ]
Mr_Busted checks
myxiplx checks
Et3rnityx checks
sinsyn checks
PeterAnttila bets [$2.40]
Mr_Busted folds
myxiplx raises [$8]
Et3rnityx calls [$8]
sinsyn folds
PeterAnttila folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
myxiplx checks
Et3rnityx checks
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
myxiplx checks
Et3rnityx is all-In [$32.75]
myxiplx calls [$32.75]
myxiplx shows [ 8d, 7s ]three of a kind, Eights.
Et3rnityx shows [ 4h, 4c ]a full house, Fours full of Eights.
Et3rnityx wins $83.40 from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of Eights.

 

[Tammy]

I think you're being way too results oriented. Frankly, I don't see how you can get away from that hand. Chalk it up as unlucky.

 

[zebranky]

TOUGH BREAK

I feel your pain - and no, I don't think you played it badly, although folding is always an option if you think you're beaten.
You flopped trips, and someone flopped a boat. It sucks, but it happens occasionally, so I wouldn't sweat it too much on that count. However, I don't think I would have called this one down to the river, mostly because of your kicker. While it is unlikely that the other 8 was out there, you have to consider that anyone raising to you when you bet on the paired board either has the other 8, or is holding a good PP. If they have the other 8, even on a "random" selection of the other card they hold, the chances are they have a better kicker than you.
Your flop raise was good. I don't like checking the turn, but it's not wrong to check it here - its more of a style/habit thing for me, as I never allow free cards, unless I'm already going to fold.

You should bet the river, though. after raising the flop and checking the turn, you're practically screaming "slow play," and I think your opponent pushed all in with a fair certainty that you'd call. I think a small bet (1/4-1/2 pot) would either win you the hand (if he was bluffing), or force him to raise all-in. The difference now is that he would be raising you to go all-in - making it much less likely he's bluffing. That would be the information I need to fold your hand.
Of course, having said that, If I had to call/fold in the situation you were in on the river - I would call, both from curiosity, and to show the rest of the table that I won't be pushed off good hands - even if they lose sometimes.

 

[Jack Daniels]

Yeah, I think you're stuck with this. You don't have a read on him, so I'd say him having two pair is just as likely. Granted his overbet on the river was weird, but I still think you're calling here.

 

[Dingodaddy23]

wow thats rough. you were destined to get stacked, i probably would have got my money in on the turn.

 

[ChuckTs]

You have to stop and think about what hands check-call a big flop raise like that.

There are no draws on board (unless you want to count a lowly gutshot which I really dont see someone chasing). tbh unless you've got a read on him as being a big calling station, he's either got to have an 8 (which most probably has a better kicker than yours) or is slowplaying a made FH.

Then again I dont' doubt I pay him off on the river either.

I hope you noted him as a slowplayer

 

[Welly]

You have to stop and think about what hands check-call a big flop raise like that.

There are no draws on board (unless you want to count a lowly gutshot which I really dont see someone chasing). tbh unless you've got a read on him as being a big calling station, he's either got to have an 8 (which most probably has a better kicker than yours) or is slowplaying a made FH.

^^^^This

I think you can get away from this hand. Maybe with A8 you would be semi-forced into the call....but not with 87

 

[joosebuck]

yeah too many donks play K8/A8 at that level, an angstful fold - but still one you need to be able to do

 

[myxiplx]

Thanks guys, confirming what I thought. My instinct was thatI was beaten, I knew my kicker wasn't great, but I couldn't see trips with a high kicker playing it like that. The FH I didn't even see, had I thought about it I may have put him on it.

One good point was that it didn't put me on tilt or anything which I consider a sign my game's improving. Just going to file this one away as a situation to be aware of. I felt the river call was a bad one, but without being able to put my finger on why felt it was worth the investment to find out.

Thanks for the input folks.