$5 NL HE 6-max: River give up

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Table 'Donati' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ($1.43 in chips)
Seat 2: Player2 ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Villain ($8.34 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($6.88 in chips)
Seat 5: Player5 ($5.92 in chips)
Seat 6: Player6 ($7.44 in chips)

Player2: posts small blind $0.02
Villain: posts big blind $0.05

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Kd]
Hero: raises to $0.12
Player5: folds
Player6: folds
Player1: folds
Player2: folds
Villain: calls $0.07

*** FLOP *** [Js 5s 8d]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $0.08 (33%)
Villain: calls $0.08

*** TURN *** [Js 5s 8d] [6s]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $0.30 (75%)
Villain: calls $0.30

*** RIVER *** [Js 5s 8d 6s] [5d]
Villain: checks
Hero: checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villain: shows [6c 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
Hero: mucks hand
Villain collected $0.98 from pot


Information:
I had played no hands with Villain.

My thoughts:
Against the BB range I think checking back the flop is completely reasonable however I decide on this occasion to CBet. I think CBetting larger (50%) here, given we don't bet as often and its a wet board, would make more sense, but 33% is fine.
For the turn, I think with any Ks, Qs, Ts etc.., that isn't a made hand, we have to bet here. We have little show down and a lot of equity. I think, as we are repping a flush or better with an uncapped range, a larger sizing makes sense. My made flushes wouldn't bet more than pot so I elect for 75% with both value (flushes, sets etc...) and bluffs.
For the river, on a non board pairing card, or a card that at least wasn't as favourable for the BB range, I think I have to triple barrel this. I have K high, with the Qs blocker. However, the big blind crushes this board. They have all the two pair, sets, flushes and now full houses.

Comments on my thought process throughout the hand, wanting to triple barrel and giving the river up? Thank you.
 
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LuTsu

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I I would have checked on the turn to realize my equity for free, and if it came to a check on the river, I would bet around 70% on any card except doubles. This is a soft line for this bad turn.
 
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I would big bet or check this board. Then probably give up turn, it's not that bad to bet but would.rather a higher flush draw plus you are still ahead of some draws (and its not a great card, e.g. 65 and 86 turn two pair, 97 gets there too). River is not that bad but once he calls a big turn bet I would give up
 
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Why bet the turn with a 30c bet? You aren't folding out any hand that has any part of this board with a 30c bet. Even two overcards might just call you. You build up the pot and now your river bluff (if you decide to try to steal it on the river) will have to be a bigger bet. You also could face a check raise. I would just check the turn.
 
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Generally, you can play pretty ABC at these levels until you have some reads or have some table dynamics/image created with some players.

I would just check when I miss, especially on such a wet board UNTIL I notice that they notice and start to exploit me.

When that happens you have to start being less obvious.
 
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PokerStars Zoom Hand
Table 'Donati' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ($1.43 in chips)
Seat 2: Player2 ($5.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Villain ($8.34 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($6.88 in chips)
Seat 5: Player5 ($5.92 in chips)
Seat 6: Player6 ($7.44 in chips)

Player2: posts small blind $0.02
Villain: posts big blind $0.05

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Kd]
Hero: raises to $0.12
Player5: folds
Player6: folds
Player1: folds
Player2: folds
Villain: calls $0.07

*** FLOP *** [Js 5s 8d]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $0.08 (33%)
Villain: calls $0.08

*** TURN *** [Js 5s 8d] [6s]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $0.30 (75%)
Villain: calls $0.30

*** RIVER *** [Js 5s 8d 6s] [5d]
Villain: checks
Hero: checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villain: shows [6c 6h] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
Hero: mucks hand
Villain collected $0.98 from pot


Information:
I had played no hands with Villain.

My thoughts:
Against the BB range I think checking back the flop is completely reasonable however I decide on this occasion to CBet. I think CBetting larger (50%) here, given we don't bet as often and its a wet board, would make more sense, but 33% is fine.
For the turn, I think with any Ks, Qs, Ts etc.., that isn't a made hand, we have to bet here. We have little show down and a lot of equity. I think, as we are repping a flush or better with an uncapped range, a larger sizing makes sense. My made flushes wouldn't bet more than pot so I elect for 75% with both value (flushes, sets etc...) and bluffs.
For the river, on a non board pairing card, or a card that at least wasn't as favourable for the BB range, I think I have to triple barrel this. I have K high, with the Qs blocker. However, the big blind crushes this board. They have all the two pair, sets, flushes and now full houses.

Comments on my thought process throughout the hand, wanting to triple barrel and giving the river up? Thank you.
On the turn vs Standard V in the BB the 6 is just terrible for us. Bb has all the flush draws on the flop and 56 86 J6 97 87 as you said this smashes their range--Vs this player type---checked the boat to you on river ---We can equity realize more often than 3 barrel off on ugly turn cards. :unsure::geek:
 
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