€400 NL HE Full Ring: Top pair with Dangerous Runoff

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This was a hand played in a casino (but I wrote everything down immediately so this time it's exact). The villain is a pretty straight-forward player whom I've played with for the first time that day; he seemed loose-passive (lots of limp-calling) except for the peculiar tendency of often raising small on the flop marginal to strong hands. Never seen him bluff, also never seen him raise Turn or River. He also folded to a super small cbet on a low flop a few hands before (I hit a set so deliberately bet small to keep him in).

Hero has :qs4: :js4: on the BN. Everyone folds to the Villain in the CO, who limps (4€). Hero bets 16€ (4BB); SB and BB fold and CO calls.

Flop comes :7h4: :qh4: :9c4: (Pot = 38€). CO checks. Hero bets 24€. CO calls.

Turn comes :8c4: (Pot = 86€). CO checks. Hero checks.

River comes :7c4: (Pot = 86€). CO checks. Hero checks and shows hand; Villain mucks.

So on he Flop, I decided to bet larger than I normally would because after Villain folded the aformentioned Flop to a super small bet, I figured he's size-insensitive; he'll just call or raise if he has something and fold if he doesn't (so the exploit is to value-bet large and bluff small). In retrospect, I think I should have just made it even bigger; something like 30€.

But the big question is whether there was room to value bet more after that. I found it genuinely difficult to figure out, and obviously I decided against it. Thoughts? Note that the risk of being bluffed is probably quite low; like I said, I don't think he raised Turn or River a single time.
 
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Preflop
Pretty standard.

Flop
Dont mind going a bit large on a wet board against a fishy opponent, who limp-called preflop, so I am fine with this sizing.

Turn
Not the most ideal card, since some hands got there now, like JT, 98, 87 and (more unlikely) 65. If he is very straight forward, you can go for a bet-fold line to get value from mainly draws, but checking back for pot control is the more theoretical correct approach.

River
Now 7X and backdoor clubs got there as well. However he also checked to you, after you showed weakness on the turn. Here you have to ask yourself, how often he would check a hand better than yours? Would he for instance check KQ? Or even have that hand after limp-calling preflop? Or would he even check a 7, because he is overly scared of the backdoor flush? If you think, he would most likely bet hands better than yours, then you should strongly consider to go for thin value. You dont have to go huge, but maybe anything up to 40£ can get called by a lot of worse two pair hands like QT, 98 etc.
 
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I think it's fine overall. It's pretty thin to bet turn and river. As fundiver says against a weak opponent it might be possible to get one more small bet in.
 
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You played the hand fine I think the hand is too thin on a board like this so perfect as played
 
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Vs this V as described we want to be bet folding all the time on turn especially when we have the nut blockers--we miss value from flush draws and Ax hands this player will call the turn with and when called we still have a draw to a straight-----if we do not bet the turn we value the river half pot---they are inelastic--- we do all this because our V never has light check raises and if we value own ourselves it's against a loose passive they cannot use it against us---beware the rest of the table though do not apply the same action vs better players if they see you do :unsure::geek:
 
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