€400 NL HE Full Ring: A worthless two pair

[kdmeteor]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$2/$4

Table Format

Full (8-10 seats)

Currency

€

This was a casino hand that's formatted like an online hand because I already imported it into PokerTracker. The player I've named J is one of the sharks, capable of all the scary plays that good players tend to be capable of, though probably a little more honest/careful than GTO. However, I tend to take small stabs at multiway pots a lot (far less often if there's a strong player in the pot, but he doesn't know that), and he may have noticed this and decided to raise pretty wide.

Anyway, I played this very passively, and it sort of felt like with the run-out, I didn't have much of a choice to do it differently. Or did I? Maybe this should have been a re-raise on the Flop, given that I'm at the upper end of my range here?

CASINO ROOM, Hold'em No Limit - §2/§4 - 9 players

x (UTG): §20 (5 bb)
xx (UTG+1): §20 (5 bb)
xxx (MP): §20 (5 bb)
xxxx (MP+1): §20 (5 bb)
xxxxx (LP): §20 (5 bb)
xxxxxx (CO): §20 (5 bb)
p1 (BU): §300 (75 bb)
J (SB): §1,000 (250 bb)
me (BB): §800 (200 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§6) Hero (me) is BB with J♠ 9♥
6 players fold, p1 (BU) calls §4, J (SB) calls §2, me (BB) checks

Flop: (§12) Q♦ J♣ 9♣ (3 players)
J (SB) checks, me (BB) bets §8, p1 (BU) folds, J (SB) raises to §40, me (BB) calls §32

Turn: (§92) A♣ (2 players)
J (SB) checks, me (BB) checks

River: (§92) T♠ (2 players)
J (SB) bets §30, me (BB) folds

Total pot: §92 (Rake: §0)
J (SB) wins §92

 

[Station_Master]

Bottom 2 is not that strong when there are straights available and then when flush comes in on turn, as you say your hand is worthless. On the river it's a fold or raise (as bluff)

 

[kdmeteor]

Bottom 2 is not that strong when there are straights available and then when flush comes in on turn, as you say your hand is worthless. On the river it's a fold or raise (as bluff)

Yeah, I think River is the least interesting street here (except Preflop I guess); there's no way you call. Flop and maybe Turn may have more play though.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Seems fine to take a free flop with this hand.

Flop
Leading is fine in a limped pot. When you get check-raised, your hand is reduced to a bluff catcher, since no worse hand should ever be doing this for value. If he had AA, KK, AQ or KQ, he would likely have raised preflop. So you are either behind, or he has some kind of draw. KT, T8, QJ and Q9 are all hands, he could easily have and play like this.

Turn
Now the flushdraw complete and more better two pair combinations are possible, if he somehow has for instance AQ or AJ and played it like this. So your hand is definitely not strong enough to bet for value when checked to.

River
Now any K or 8 got there and hands like QT or AT as well. You definitely cant call, and if you raise, you are kind of saying, you have a flush but did not bet the turn, which is not the most credible story in the world. So I would also just give up and live to fight another day.

 

[Aballinamion]

This was a casino hand that's formatted like an online hand because I already imported it into PokerTracker. The player I've named J is one of the sharks, capable of all the scary plays that good players tend to be capable of, though probably a little more honest/careful than GTO. However, I tend to take small stabs at multiway pots a lot (far less often if there's a strong player in the pot, but he doesn't know that), and he may have noticed this and decided to raise pretty wide.

Anyway, I played this very passively, and it sort of felt like with the run-out, I didn't have much of a choice to do it differently. Or did I? Maybe this should have been a re-raise on the Flop, given that I'm at the upper end of my range here?

CASINO ROOM, Hold'em No Limit - §2/§4 - 9 players

x (UTG): §20 (5 bb)
xx (UTG+1): §20 (5 bb)
xxx (MP): §20 (5 bb)
xxxx (MP+1): §20 (5 bb)
xxxxx (LP): §20 (5 bb)
xxxxxx (CO): §20 (5 bb)
p1 (BU): §300 (75 bb)
J (SB): §1,000 (250 bb)
me (BB): §800 (200 bb)

Pre-Flop: (§6) Hero (me) is BB with J♠ 9♥
6 players fold, p1 (BU) calls §4, J (SB) calls §2, me (BB) checks

Flop: (§12) Q♦ J♣ 9♣ (3 players)
J (SB) checks, me (BB) bets §8, p1 (BU) folds, J (SB) raises to §40, me (BB) calls §32

Turn: (§92) A♣ (2 players)
J (SB) checks, me (BB) checks

River: (§92) T♠ (2 players)
J (SB) bets §30, me (BB) folds

Total pot: §92 (Rake: §0)
J (SB) wins §92

Nice hand once we haven't too much room for folding having plenty of equity and playability.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

Nice hand once we haven't too much room for folding having plenty of equity and playability.

What?

 

[ElmerS]

Preflop

The check is fine. Against a loose button player you can try to steal the pot. But the check is a beter play most of the time

Flop

I do not like the donk bet. At a wet dynamic board like this I would recommend to check to the preflop limper and wait and see how he reacts.

As played we have to call the raise with our 2 pair. The raise over a donk is a move people can use as a bluff with there draws or value raise a lot of the time so we have to call.

Turn

The check on the flushcompleting turn tells me he has some kind of strong hand that is afraid for a flush. This is a range of hands like every two pair, KK and maybe some straights.
To strong to get value so I like the check

River

With the T every K makes a straight so our two pair is way to weak to call. It smelss like a King looking for some value against two pair.
If you think your opponent is capable to fold a K you could think about raising to 240 or even 300. But you need the right read to do this.