$25 NL HE Full Ring:

[kdmeteor]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.10/$.25

Table Format

Full (8-10 seats)

Currency

$

(Hope posting two hands on the same day is okay.) My question here is just whether this should have been a fold on the Turn. In GTO world I'm guessing you can't go around folding overpairs when people could check-raise a good top pair or draw, but against what people actually do, it wouldn't surprise me if a fold here is good. Does anyone have statistics and/or experience with how much the GGPoker crowd raises in these spots? No player-specific stats or reads here. (Or maybe I'm wrong and this is just a GTO fold as well?)

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 ($0.10 ante) - 7 players
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5a7dbe5e (UTG): $37.96 (152 bb)
b6d2d906 (MP): $36.29 (145 bb)
c12b6af4 (MP+1): $98.18 (393 bb)
822f796f (CO): $50.00 (200 bb)
762b0b2f (BU): $50.00 (200 bb)
Hero (SB): $48.22 (193 bb)
91558d1 (BB): $82.67 (331 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.05) Hero (Hero) is SB with A♠ A♣
5a7dbe5e (UTG) calls $0.25, 1 fold, c12b6af4 (MP+1) calls $0.25, 822f796f (CO) calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero (SB) raises to $1.72, 2 players fold, c12b6af4 (MP+1) calls $1.47, 822f796f (CO) calls $1.47

Flop: ($6.36) K♣ 2♥ J♦ (3 players)
Hero (SB) bets $2.10, c12b6af4 (MP+1) raises to $4.20, 822f796f (CO) folds, Hero (SB) calls $2.10

Turn: ($14.76) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero (SB) checks, c12b6af4 (MP+1) bets $11.07, Hero (SB) calls $11.07

River: ($36.90) 6♣ (2 players)
Hero (SB) checks, c12b6af4 (MP+1) checks

Total pot: $36.90 (Rake: $2.03)

Showdown:
c12b6af4 (MP+1) shows J♣ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

Hero (SB) shows A♠ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

c12b6af4 (MP+1) wins $34.87

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
With so much dead money from the ante I would go bigger here like $2.5. Basically consider it a 3-bet, even though they limped.

Flop
C-bet is fine, and calling his min-raise is mandatory. It is strong action, but at the same time his only nut hands should be KJ and 22, so there is not a whole lot you lose to here. Also he open limped preflop, so even without other information we know, he is a bad player, and bad players do many bad things. Maybe he hit "raise" by mistake, or maybe he is raising top pair "for protection" or doing some sort of weird "reverse block" with a draw.

Turn
Now he start to put in some real money, but given, what I wrote above, its still a mandatory call, as far as I am concerned.

River
If he had bombed the river, I would fold now. But luckily he checked back and did not put you to a tough decision.

Results
So he did have KJ this time. That does not mean, he has it always, and apart from preflop sizing you played the hand perfectly fine.

 

[Aballinamion]

(Hope posting two hands on the same day is okay.) My question here is just whether this should have been a fold on the Turn. In GTO world I'm guessing you can't go around folding overpairs when people could check-raise a good top pair or draw, but against what people actually do, it wouldn't surprise me if a fold here is good. Does anyone have statistics and/or experience with how much the GGPoker crowd raises in these spots? No player-specific stats or reads here. (Or maybe I'm wrong and this is just a GTO fold as well?)

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 ($0.10 ante) - 7 players
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5a7dbe5e (UTG): $37.96 (152 bb)
b6d2d906 (MP): $36.29 (145 bb)
c12b6af4 (MP+1): $98.18 (393 bb)
822f796f (CO): $50.00 (200 bb)
762b0b2f (BU): $50.00 (200 bb)
Hero (SB): $48.22 (193 bb)
91558d1 (BB): $82.67 (331 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.05) Hero (Hero) is SB with A♠ A♣
5a7dbe5e (UTG) calls $0.25, 1 fold, c12b6af4 (MP+1) calls $0.25, 822f796f (CO) calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero (SB) raises to $1.72, 2 players fold, c12b6af4 (MP+1) calls $1.47, 822f796f (CO) calls $1.47

Flop: ($6.36) K♣ 2♥ J♦ (3 players)
Hero (SB) bets $2.10, c12b6af4 (MP+1) raises to $4.20, 822f796f (CO) folds, Hero (SB) calls $2.10

Turn: ($14.76) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero (SB) checks, c12b6af4 (MP+1) bets $11.07, Hero (SB) calls $11.07

River: ($36.90) 6♣ (2 players)
Hero (SB) checks, c12b6af4 (MP+1) checks

Total pot: $36.90 (Rake: $2.03)

Showdown:
c12b6af4 (MP+1) shows J♣ K♠ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 13%, Flop: 73%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

Hero (SB) shows A♠ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 87%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

c12b6af4 (MP+1) wins $34.87

I do not own these stats but the hand was well played in all streets.