$20 NL HE 6-max: Folding PP against donk bet from SB

[SrMartis]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.10/$.20

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

Currency

$

Hello guys!

Sometimes I face this situation, and it give me a lot of doubts.

I don't know If I should call, or fold..

Seat 1: A5_T32005407_R8106 ($11.66 in chips)
Seat 2: A6_T32005407_R9742 ($5.36 in chips)
Seat 3: A1_T32005407_R6020 ($9.66 in chips)
Seat 4: A2_T32005407_R7335 ($18.97 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($8.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($10.29 in chips) with [Ad Td]

*** HOLE CARDS ***
HJ: calls $0.10
CO: calls $0.10
BTN: folds
SB complete $0.05
Hero: raises to $0.60.

I made 6X to isolate the limpers around.

Only the SB calls $0.50

*** FLOP *** [Jd 7h Th] {Rake: $0.07}

Nice we have some middle pair, so we had some equity and we're represent a strong range playing like this OOP.

To my surprise the SB donk bets $1 into 1.26 $

Hero: folds

I decided to fold based in the hand strenght I was representing.

When he did that, It represents a lot of strenght.

But It doesn't make sense to me, If he wants to get some value from his strong hand, WTH he'll be doing that?

A3_T32005407_R9107 collected $1.26 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.40 | Rake $0.14

 

[Aballinamion]

Hello guys!

Sometimes I face this situation, and it give me a lot of doubts.

I don't know If I should call, or fold..

Seat 1: A5_T32005407_R8106 ($11.66 in chips)
Seat 2: A6_T32005407_R9742 ($5.36 in chips)
Seat 3: A1_T32005407_R6020 ($9.66 in chips)
Seat 4: A2_T32005407_R7335 ($18.97 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($8.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($10.29 in chips) with [Ad Td]

*** HOLE CARDS ***
HJ: calls $0.10
CO: calls $0.10
BTN: folds
SB complete $0.05
Hero: raises to $0.60.

I made 6X to isolate the limpers around.

Only the SB calls $0.50

*** FLOP *** [Jd 7h Th] {Rake: $0.07}

Nice we have some middle pair, so we had some equity and we're represent a strong range playing like this OOP.

To my surprise the SB donk bets $1 into 1.26 $

Hero: folds

I decided to fold based in the hand strenght I was representing.

When he did that, It represents a lot of strenght.

But It doesn't make sense to me, If he wants to get some value from his strong hand, WTH he'll be doing that?

A3_T32005407_R9107 collected $1.26 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.40 | Rake $0.14

Thread 'How to react to donkey bet' https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/how-react-donkey-bet-524067/

Read this article about leads aka donk bet. Try to read what all of the forum members had written, it's all good stuff and might help you.

In this case, having no information of villain our best course of action is to fold to the donk bet.
Villain will have plenty of Jx, maybe even a few combos of JT. J7 is not likely to be on villain's range.
hands like JJ+ are also improbable. AJ is a maybe as well, but we can assign a couple of combos to villain's range as well.
More like is Jx, 77 (as values) and the straight and flush draws of hearts (as bluffs) that could've been playing this way.
If we do call here we are guessing and leveling against a player and range unknown.

 

[Station_Master]

I probably call 1bet and then play turns, but I think fold is fine as villain's size is big. Without the back door flush draw , I think I fold straight away.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Fine spot to isolate the limpers, and sizing looks good as well.

Flop
I think, this one is pretty close. Normally second pair top kicker is a slam donk call on the flop, and it does not matter so much, if you are facing a C-bet or as in this case a donk bet. However when we look at the texture of this flop, you have a ton of other hands, that flopped some sort of draw. Like AK or AQ has a gutshot with two overs. 99 and 88 has a gutshot. And so on and so forth. So you do have other hands to continue with, that have more ways to improve, when you are behind. You do have a backdoor flushdraw though, so this particular combo of AT is probably still a call, but you are not losing a ton of EV by folding.

In real time I will also use my HUD whenever facing donk bets, and if this SB is donking a lot, then I am definitely calling here. I dont want to create a situation, where someone can just limp-call preflop and then lead into me on the flop and pick up the pot with tons of random garbage. But if his donk bet stats are something like 1 in 8 opportunities, then I would lean more to give him credit for having flopped something, that my AT is not in great shape against. Even if he has a hand like KQ, that he is semibluffing, he has a ton of equity against AT.

 

[blueskies]

Usually a bet like that is top pair scared of being outdrawn.
Whether to continue or not depends on reads against the guy. Without a read, I lean toward folding. Get him next time.

PS, the title says 20NL but the limp sizing is 10NL. I assume this should be 10NL.