$2 NL HE 6-max: What do you think about the check raise?

[daddy99]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.01/$.02

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

Currency

$

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
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fe118b87 (UTG): $2.59 (130 bb)
243f7e3a (CO): $3.58 (179 bb)
7f3653db (BU): $2.57 (129 bb)
ed8be493 (SB): $2.23 (112 bb)
Hero (BB): $3.32 (166 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Hero) is BB with 8♥ A♣
2 players fold, 7f3653db (BU) raises to $0.05, 1 fold, Hero (BB) calls $0.03

Flop: ($0.11) A♦ 2♥ 5♣ (2 players)
Hero (BB) checks, 7f3653db (BU) bets $0.04, Hero (BB) raises to $0.10, 7f3653db (BU) folds

Total pot: $0.19 (Rake: $0.01)
Hero (BB) wins $0.18

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Standard call.

Flop
This hand is to in-between to check-raise the flop. You are value-owning yourself against all the better hands in his range and getting most worse hands to fold including all his bluffs, that might have continued to bluff on the turn.

 

[daddy99]

Preflop
Standard call.

Flop
This hand is to in-between to check-raise the flop. You are value-owning yourself against all the better hands in his range and getting most worse hands to fold including all his bluffs, that might have continued to bluff on the turn.

yes I could have make more value out of him, he would probably bet the turn, not the river though, but if he would catch a straight or a two or a set he would have been getting more value out of me and my thought process here was to protect my hand because it was a made hand with no draw, what do you think?

 

[fundiver199]

yes I could have make more value out of him, he would probably bet the turn, not the river though, but if he would catch a straight or a two or a set he would have been getting more value out of me and my thought process here was to protect my hand because it was a made hand with no draw, what do you think?

Its a dry board, where you are usually either way ahead or way behind, so protection is not really a big concern.

 

[daddy99]

Its a dry board, where you are usually either way ahead or way behind, so protection is not really a big concern.

I mean it has a straight draw possibility, it's not entirely dry but I get your point

 

[dannystanks]

This hand doesn’t need protection. He raised the button, does he do this with low cards like 3-4? That is supposed to be your range here not necessarily his. What is your plan on the Turn and River if he calls your raise here? What was your plan if he raised you back? I like to think through the hand all the way to the river when I am in this spot, that way when he doesn’t fold you have a good plan on what to do.
Generally this is a great spot to check raise here for you in the BB even without the Ace in your hand. Can you check raise bluff in this spot? If you can’t and you are just doing this for value then good players will be noticing so be aware of that.

 

[fundiver199]

Generally this is a great spot to check raise here for you in the BB even without the Ace in your hand. Can you check raise bluff in this spot? If you can’t and you are just doing this for value then good players will be noticing so be aware of that.

Supposedly you mean, its NOT a great spot to check-raise? BTN has a range advantage, because he have all the good AX in his range and less junk, and its difficult to find draws, that want to check-raise. So this is a spot, where I would probably play my entire range as a check-call and then consider a turn check-raise with my two pair and sets. Or some times even just call down with a hand like A2 and let him bluff or value own himself.

 

[dannystanks]

It’s generally a great spot to check raise here because yes, the button does have more Ax in his range than we do. But we have all the small cards in our range like the 5-2 or 2-2 or 5-5 or 3-4. I know raising here isn’t something you want to do every time, my point is, if you are looking for a play to make on someone who might be constantly raising your blind when they are the button then this play is available and can work.

 

[kdmeteor]

It's a medium strength hand; medium strength hands don't want to checkraise. I genuinely think that's all the analysis you need.

 

[eetenor]

yes I could have make more value out of him, he would probably bet the turn, not the river though, but if he would catch a straight or a two or a set he would have been getting more value out of me and my thought process here was to protect my hand because it was a made hand with no draw, what do you think?

This is a good thought exercise for you- create a range for your Villain then think about that entire range and how your hand plays vs the greatest part of it---What you may discover is that the XR gives you much less protection than you want it too while decreasing your overall value return vs that range.

Simple example

We have the same spot multiple hands our XR wins us X chips when they fold --the weakest part of their range --but when called we lose X+ chips to value hands and to strong draws-- what we discover is we are not protecting our over all ROI we are only protecting this hand vs a low equity draw occurrence.

When we do that we limit our long term ROI

 

[Aballinamion]

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
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fe118b87 (UTG): $2.59 (130 bb)
243f7e3a (CO): $3.58 (179 bb)
7f3653db (BU): $2.57 (129 bb)
ed8be493 (SB): $2.23 (112 bb)
Hero (BB): $3.32 (166 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Hero) is BB with 8♥ A♣
2 players fold, 7f3653db (BU) raises to $0.05, 1 fold, Hero (BB) calls $0.03

Flop: ($0.11) A♦ 2♥ 5♣ (2 players)
Hero (BB) checks, 7f3653db (BU) bets $0.04, Hero (BB) raises to $0.10, 7f3653db (BU) folds

Total pot: $0.19 (Rake: $0.01)
Hero (BB) wins $0.18

I don't like check raising here. I will only check raise in this spots when I own potential draws that might improve on the turn, or I have a wonderful hand that will certainly get called for by a weaker player.
Once we called preflop most likely we do not own the best hands, such as AK or AA, thus we are risking too much.