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beazer76
Enthusiast
Silver Level
hi thanks for posting to original poster.
my 6 max charts have 43 suited as a definite call and so for myself as hero I call preflop. my chart has a large calling range including low pairs pairs 22-JJ and also lots of low suited cards ( 43,53,64,65,75 - all suited., 86 etc etc. )
for me as hero on flop facing the bet from UTG villain , do I call ? do I fold ? I call here as I like my implied odds from my backdoor flush draw of hearts.
for the turn street I play same as poster.
if I have a read on the player maybe I can begin to bluff with a small bet and shove river perhaps. to answer the posters question : should I have tried to bluff him??? I don't think it's a huge blunder and wrong to bluff here because the turn card is very very good for us and we made our flush draw also, but for me I don't think its a great spot overall to bluff and I don't bluff here.
my 6 max charts have 43 suited as a definite call and so for myself as hero I call preflop. my chart has a large calling range including low pairs pairs 22-JJ and also lots of low suited cards ( 43,53,64,65,75 - all suited., 86 etc etc. )
for me as hero on flop facing the bet from UTG villain , do I call ? do I fold ? I call here as I like my implied odds from my backdoor flush draw of hearts.
for the turn street I play same as poster.
if I have a read on the player maybe I can begin to bluff with a small bet and shove river perhaps. to answer the posters question : should I have tried to bluff him??? I don't think it's a huge blunder and wrong to bluff here because the turn card is very very good for us and we made our flush draw also, but for me I don't think its a great spot overall to bluff and I don't bluff here.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Preflop
Its fine to defend 43s to a 2,5X open.
Flop
Not sure why you are check-calling here? You basically have the nut low, and you only flopped a BDFD, which is not a lot to continue with. Yes he used small sizing, but a hand this bad is still an easy fold.
Turn
You picked up a flushdraw, so as played you can call any reasonable bet, but he checks back.
River
You have no showdown value, so your hand is definitely a candidate to bluff. However when he bet flop, check back turn a decent part of his range is going to be A high, which just improved to top pair. So I dont think, this is a good bluffing card for you, and at 2NL I would probably use a very unbalanced approach and only bet the river for value in a situation like this. And if you had folded on the flop, you would not be here in the first place, so it kind of dont even matter.
Its fine to defend 43s to a 2,5X open.
Flop
Not sure why you are check-calling here? You basically have the nut low, and you only flopped a BDFD, which is not a lot to continue with. Yes he used small sizing, but a hand this bad is still an easy fold.
Turn
You picked up a flushdraw, so as played you can call any reasonable bet, but he checks back.
River
You have no showdown value, so your hand is definitely a candidate to bluff. However when he bet flop, check back turn a decent part of his range is going to be A high, which just improved to top pair. So I dont think, this is a good bluffing card for you, and at 2NL I would probably use a very unbalanced approach and only bet the river for value in a situation like this. And if you had folded on the flop, you would not be here in the first place, so it kind of dont even matter.
kdmeteor
Rock Star
Silver Level
Personally, I'm slamming the 3bet button with this hand. Low suited connectors make awesome hands to 3bet from the blinds because everyone puts you on high cards, so if the Flop has high cards, you can bluff them, and if you hit it, they don't think you hit it. I would have made it around 4BB Preflop and then cbet the Flop once (only once since this hits their range too well, so if they call, you have to give up).
Not saying this is One Correct Way to play the hand, but it is something you could consider, and it would have very likely won you the hand, either Preflop or on the Flop.
As played, should you bluff the River? I don't think so. Board connects too well with his range; I don't think trying to get your opponent off of high pairs is a winning strategy on low stakes GGPoker. If for some reason I don't 3bet Preflop, then I fold this hand on the Flop, and if for some reason I call the Flop, then I play Turn and River as you did.
Not saying this is One Correct Way to play the hand, but it is something you could consider, and it would have very likely won you the hand, either Preflop or on the Flop.
As played, should you bluff the River? I don't think so. Board connects too well with his range; I don't think trying to get your opponent off of high pairs is a winning strategy on low stakes GGPoker. If for some reason I don't 3bet Preflop, then I fold this hand on the Flop, and if for some reason I call the Flop, then I play Turn and River as you did.
Aballinamion
Dark Lord of the Sith
Bronze Level
You are playing too many hands pal. We can try to call hands like 43s from time to time, I would say 10% of times when the odds are so good that we cannot refuse. Overall we simply fold preflop. About bluffing it postflop, bad idea.
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daddy99
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I don't play this hand very often.
I just figured that it would be a good price price to call a 2.5 bet from the big blind.
normally i wouldn't do it.
but i should have folded as fundiver199 said on the comment.
kdmeteor
Rock Star
Silver Level
I really don't think 43s should ever be folded to a 2.5x open when you're closing the action and are deep stacked. If you're at the SB or there are more people in the Pot or the bet is bigger, then different story. But as is, you only need to realize 30% equity OOP with a suited gapper equivalent. That should be doable.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Exactly. I dont understand, why people focus on the preflop decision, which is completely standard or at least so close, its not a big deal. But nobody other than me comment about the flop call, which is atrocious. Its not profitable to defend a small suited connector if we continue on flops, where we pretty much missed completely and are drawing almost dead to a lot of the opponents range.