$10 NL HE 6-max: Should I find a River check/fold?

[pokernomad]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.05/$.10

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

Currency

$

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 155 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 138.8 BB
MP: 161.7 BB
CO: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: J:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, BB calls 9 BB, BTN calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 3 players) K:diamond: 9:heart: 2:diamond:
Hero checks, BB bets 8.6 BB, BTN calls 8.6 BB, Hero calls 8.6 BB

Turn: (55.8 BB, 3 players) 9:diamond:
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 26.6 BB, Hero calls 26.6 BB, fold

River: (109 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
Hero bets 104.1 BB, BTN calls 54.8 BB and is all-in

Spoiler: Cards Face Up

Hero shows A:diamond: J:diamond: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 61%, Flop 53%, Turn 77%)
BTN shows Q:spade: 9:spade: (Full House, Nines full of Twos)
(Pre 39%, Flop 47%, Turn 23%)
BTN wins 208.8 BB

Can I get your thoughts on this?
Given the preflop/flop play, villain's turn bet to me said he had either a worse flush (probably KQ,KT,QT or suited connectors) or KQo/KJo, or J9s, T9s, - I think he 4bets AA/KK/QQ preflop, JJ is too thin to bet here
Question - is it better to check raise the turn here?

When the river comes, I don't think villain has a 2, so I am losing to a 9.
Question - what is the best thing to do here?
If I check, I think he bets any 9 and most flushes, therefore I think he will call with these hands as well
I think he checks back Kx - so rather than let him do that, I shove which he calls, and shows me the bad news.

Is there a way I can find a check/fold here?
Your thoughts are appreciated

 

[Aballinamion]

Thanks for posting your hand mate.
Preflop our 3-bet is fine and the bad thing is that BB called too. But that’s okay, our hand will do good postflop. Our sizing preflop was good.
On the flop we could bet or raise once we can represent AA, KK, QQ, AK and the combo draws. A check is also fine because we are drawing to the nut flush, but I will like to be check-raising more often than check-calling, because we are OOP, and we want one of the players to get out of the pot to increase our odds, since we have anything yet for sure on the flop.
On the turn, we checking again is good because now is more likely we own the nuts for this board configuration and we want players to bet dominated hands. Once again I like check-raising here because BU/Villain polarized and there’s already a lot of blinds to collect if it elects to fold to our check-raise.
On the river becomes hard to fold because now we own just a couple of blinds. And as long there are both 9 and 2 doubled, there’s a great chance we are beat, but we are committed to the pot.

 

[puntr]

Although it is painful to let go of the nut flush I do think this is a check fold. That being said I think this is a slam dunk C-Bet on the flop or in this case a Re-raise with you NFD. I definitely wouldn't check raise the turn with that holding personally as you block some combo draws JTdd J8dd QJdd for example.

 

[Aballinamion]

Although it is painful to let go of the nut flush I do think this is a check fold. That being said I think this is a slam dunk C-Bet on the flop or in this case a Re-raise with you NFD. I definitely wouldn't check raise the turn with that holding personally as you block some combo draws JTdd J8dd QJdd for example.

That’s okay, to check with our nut flush draws. But what about the times we don’t own it? The times we have a flush draw on the flop and we are holding TPTK, Two Pair, Set and Straight, are we also checking, i.e, not protecting our range?

 

[pokernomad]

Thank you both for your advice

I understand that I should C-bet or check raise the flop in this spot - my initial intention was to a) see a cheap card and b) increase my implied odds by leaving more players in the pot on the turn.

I also think it is likely that a villain has Kx in here and is likely to a)raise or b) call a check raise. I guess a check raise would would get some low/mid pairs or low equity draws to fold while leaving the initial bets in the pot.

 

[gustav197poker]

Standard preflop. OTF you have everything going for you and I really can't see a reason not to make a continuation bet. When the Vs join the pot, BB donk betting and BU calling, it's hard to think we're going to get enough fold equity if we raise, so calling is preferable.
The turn is good for us and I like your check here.
The fact that another 9 has turned up means that if the Vs tend to call a lot (as seems to be the case), it's possible that one of them has a 9 and isn't afraid to chase a better hand on the river.
We're only mostly down to K9 and 99, so if we think we have the best hand, I like the x/jam OTT line better. The V could have a worse flush, since we never represent relevant values in our range. (We did not cbet OTF, that is, we were practically giving up on said texture).
The river is bad for us, but I guess you tried that line to get called Kxs (sticky villains). I still think a better line against these opponents is to cbet standard OTF and check with value raise OTT if they bet.
Greetings.