$10 NL HE 6-max: Nut flush facing river check raise on paired board

[blueskies]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.05/$.10

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

VP$IP

14

PFR

9

AF

3

Currency

$

Villain Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 14/9/3
I opened to 28c with Ac3c from CO. Only BB calls.

5c7cAs flop.

I cbet half pot. He insta min raises me.

Hm, kinda weird. Ok I called.

Turn is Ah, which improves my hand but if he has an ace except for has me beat and at worst tied.

He checks. With the nut flush dr I decided to bet again, half pot. He min raises me again.

Confusing. But I called.

River is Jc.

He checks. The possiblity of him having a boat did cross my mind but would he just chk a FH and risk me checking behind after he check raised me twice already?

I decided it was more likely he has an A and bet $3 into the roughly $5 pot. He shoves and I instantly regret betting.

The best i can hope for is he has a flush too. He is not doing this with trips or worse.

It was a call of a bit over $5. I was getting about 3:1. I ended up calling.

What would you change abt how I played this hand?

Spoiler

77

I would be calling off

 

[Station_Master]

I wouldn't bet turn here as your hand is still just a bluff catcher. As played fold the river raise, he basically always has a boat here.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Standard raise of course.

Flop
C-betting is not terrible, but this is also a really good hand to check back, since it dont need much protection, and its a combination of a draw and a medium strong made hand. As played you obviously have to call a min-raise.

Turn
When we get check-raised on the flop, its rare, we should bet for value later in the hand, as this is certainly not such a time. When he check-raise twice, it really smells like, he flopped a set and now filled up, but getting a great price you still have to call. But I would be very concerned going to the river, and I would be much happier to fill up than to make a flush.

River
Because of all, what I wrote already, I would check back and take a free showdown. This opponent seem to love to "trap", and after check-raising twice he could easily go for the same line of the river.

Spoiler
Honestly you got kind of owned here and lost to much to an opponent, who almost turned his hand face up with the line, he took.

 

[fundiver199]

Just want to add, that unless the sample was very small, then HUD-stats of 14/9 is a further reason to show some caution here. Those are very nitty stats especially for 6-max, and when a nitty player check min-raise an ace high flop, what is realistically his range? If this guy had a draw, he would most likely just check-call and try to get there. Or if he was occationally feeling spicy, he would check-raise to a size, that gave him fold equity.

A check min-raise really smells like, he is trying to be tricky and massage the pot larger with a hand, that he thinks is best. And because he is a nit, thats almost always going to be two pair or a set. And if you had correctly deduced that already on the flop, then it would have been much easier to check back the turn and/or river. Because the only realistic hand, you beat on the turn, is the counterfeited two pair (75), and he is not going to pay you off with that.

 

[blueskies]

Yes you are right. I played it dumb. Didn't think it through properly.
Sample size was about 160 hands. Big enough to know he's probably not gonna go out of line too often.

 

[WrongUsername]

nits gonna have like always, better luck next time

 

[Aballinamion]

I cbet half pot. He insta min raises me.

Giving this flop texture we can either call his mind raise or raise over it.

Turn is Ah, which improves my hand but if he has an ace except for has me beat and at worst tied.

He checks. With the nut flush dr I decided to bet again, half pot. He min raises me again.

Confusing. But I called.

Which hands are villain raising with is odd, but we have enough equity and villain has sufficient bluffs to justify our calling.

River is Jc.

He checks. The possiblity of him having a boat did cross my mind but would he just chk a FH and risk me checking behind after he check raised me twice already?

I decided it was more likely he has an A and bet $3 into the roughly $5 pot. He shoves and I instantly regret betting.

Now we cannot simply check behind to realize our equity because of the same reason of the turn, villain might have worst hands and some bluffs so no problem after it raises over us, we must call it. If it has a boat, it is what it is.

 

[fundiver199]

Sample size was about 160 hands. Big enough to know he's probably not gonna go out of line too often.

Yeah in that case it is kind of criminal to not use the HUD stats to your advantage. If a 63/38 took this line, I would be totally on board with the way, you played the hand, because he could be goofing around with something completely random, and at the end of the day the nut flush is a very strong hand. So it would be a "ok show it to me" situation, and a lot of the time he would not have it.

But when a 14/9 check-raise you twice, he basically always has the nuts, which on the turn means a full house. And yes its strange, that he checked his full house on the river, when the flushdraw completed, and you would likely check back trips. But if his entire range consisted of full houses after the turn action, then this was also his range on the river. Its not like, he can suddenly have just an ace, if he would not have played top pair this way on the flop and trips this way on the turn. Thats the fundamental principle of the hand range funnel. It gets narrower for each action taken, and it never gets wider.