$10 NL HE 6-max: Misclick gets me into trouble?

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Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.05/$.10

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

Currency

$

Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 20.30, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.65, hands: 409)
SB: 41.7 BB (VPIP: 67.11, PFR: 36.84, 3Bet Preflop: 25.81, Hands: 79)
BB: 126.5 BB (VPIP: 10.29, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 71)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 30)
Hero (MP): 141.7 BB
CO: 159.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB,
This is a misclick - I know I should be raising to 10BB here

fold, fold, SB calls 5.5 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, UTG raises to 60 BB,
I guess someone can have AA here, but the misclick means they are incentivised to 3bet wider. The UTG 4Bet is a more of a concern as their range should be strong

Hero raises to 141.7 BB and is all-in,
I have KK, if I 3Bet correctly, I want to get it all in preflop, so I think this is an ok play - would like to know your thoughts on this given the misclick

SB calls 35.7 BB and is all-in, fold,
I think their call pre is ok here given the misclick and they end up with pot-odds to call my shove, but they should be cautious that UTG will probably also call

UTG calls 40 BB and is all-in
The call here should be super strong, I would expect AA, KK or AK

Flop: (256.7 BB, 3 players) J:diamond: 9:spade: J:club:

Turn: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:heart:

River: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:club:

Spoiler: Flip the cards over...

SB shows K:heart: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks)
I think the 3Bet pre is ok given the misclick but had I 3Bet correctly, this is a bad call/raise I think.

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 7%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)

UTG shows A:spade: J:heart: (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
How have they called preflop with AJo?

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 81%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 31%, Flop 94%, Turn 88%)

Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
FML - maybe I should get out of this hand after the misclick, but it's weird. Any thoughts on this would be really helpful

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 65%, Flop 5%, Turn 7%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 6%, Turn 12%)

SB wins 133.1 BB
UTG wins 110.8 BB

 

[Station_Master]

Not too much to analyse here. Going all in with KK preflop for 100bb is generally the play.

The villains' sizings are also terrible pre, why put 60bb in with AJ. Anyway shove is the only play here

 

[fundiver199]

Not sure this mis-click mattered to much here. And also not sure, why you would even consider folding KK pre against these two goofballs, considering what they actually showed up with? You even had HUD-stats telling you, they were both of the loose and aggro side on the spectrum. For the record it was absolutely terribly played by both. KQo is an easy fold, when there is already a 3-bet in front of him, and he is out of position. And AJo is an even easier fold, when he open UTG and then face a 3-bet and a cold 4-bet as well. Maybe UTG levelled himself here, because SB was such a huge aggro donk and playing a short stack as well. But you were also in the hand, and he essentially turned AJo into a bluff against you giving himself a terrible risk/reward.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 20.30, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.65, Hands: 409)
SB: 41.7 BB (VPIP: 67.11, PFR: 36.84, 3Bet Preflop: 25.81, Hands: 79)
BB: 126.5 BB (VPIP: 10.29, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 71)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 30)
Hero (MP): 141.7 BB
CO: 159.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB,
This is a misclick - I know I should be raising to 10BB here

fold, fold, SB calls 5.5 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, UTG raises to 60 BB,
I guess someone can have AA here, but the misclick means they are incentivised to 3bet wider. The UTG 4Bet is a more of a concern as their range should be strong

Hero raises to 141.7 BB and is all-in,
I have KK, if I 3Bet correctly, I want to get it all in preflop, so I think this is an ok play - would like to know your thoughts on this given the misclick

SB calls 35.7 BB and is all-in, fold,
I think their call pre is ok here given the misclick and they end up with pot-odds to call my shove, but they should be cautious that UTG will probably also call

UTG calls 40 BB and is all-in
The call here should be super strong, I would expect AA, KK or AK

Flop: (256.7 BB, 3 players) J:diamond: 9:spade: J:club:

Turn: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:heart:

River: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:club:

Spoiler: Flip the cards over...

SB shows K:heart: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks)
I think the 3Bet pre is ok given the misclick but had I 3Bet correctly, this is a bad call/raise I think.

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 7%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)

UTG shows A:spade: J:heart: (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
How have they called preflop with AJo?
There's typically a button just down & to the right of where we sit at the table. It seems this is likely where he moused over and then clicked
Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 81%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 31%, Flop 94%, Turn 88%)

Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
FML - maybe I should get out of this hand after the misclick, but it's weird. Any thoughts on this would be really helpful
I think that would be unwise
Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 65%, Flop 5%, Turn 7%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 6%, Turn 12%)

SB wins 133.1 BB
UTG wins 110.8 BB

be sure to reload and keep playing on that table!!! (< my advice on the hand)

 

[Aballinamion]

Pacific Poker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 20.30, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.65, Hands: 409)
SB: 41.7 BB (VPIP: 67.11, PFR: 36.84, 3Bet Preflop: 25.81, Hands: 79)
BB: 126.5 BB (VPIP: 10.29, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 71)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 30)
Hero (MP): 141.7 BB
CO: 159.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB,
This is a misclick - I know I should be raising to 10BB here

fold, fold, SB calls 5.5 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, UTG raises to 60 BB,
I guess someone can have AA here, but the misclick means they are incentivised to 3bet wider. The UTG 4Bet is a more of a concern as their range should be strong

Hero raises to 141.7 BB and is all-in,
I have KK, if I 3Bet correctly, I want to get it all in preflop, so I think this is an ok play - would like to know your thoughts on this given the misclick

SB calls 35.7 BB and is all-in, fold,
I think their call pre is ok here given the misclick and they end up with pot-odds to call my shove, but they should be cautious that UTG will probably also call

UTG calls 40 BB and is all-in
The call here should be super strong, I would expect AA, KK or AK

Flop: (256.7 BB, 3 players) J:diamond: 9:spade: J:club:

Turn: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:heart:

River: (256.7 BB, 3 players) Q:club:

Spoiler: Flip the cards over...

SB shows K:heart: Q:spade: (Full House, Queens full of Jacks)
I think the 3Bet pre is ok given the misclick but had I 3Bet correctly, this is a bad call/raise I think.

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 7%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)

UTG shows A:spade: J:heart: (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
How have they called preflop with AJo?

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 81%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 31%, Flop 94%, Turn 88%)

Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
FML - maybe I should get out of this hand after the misclick, but it's weird. Any thoughts on this would be really helpful

Main Pot [140.1 BB]: (Pre 65%, Flop 5%, Turn 7%)
Side Pot#1 [116.6 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 6%, Turn 12%)

SB wins 133.1 BB
UTG wins 110.8 BB

About the misclick there's nothing we can do about it. Unfortunately these things happen so no more comments.
We are never folding KK here under any possible circumstance. If villain has AA, good for it.
Nice hand, well played.

 

[fundiver199]

I have KK, if I 3Bet correctly, I want to get it all in preflop, so I think this is an ok play - would like to know your thoughts on this given the misclick

Just want to elaborate a bit more on this one by saying, that its very rare, we should even consider folding KK pre in a 6-max cash game for 100BB effective. So if we simply make it a default to never do that, its not going to be ane sort of leak in our game. In 9-max cash games there are more situations, where folding KK pre can be considered, because ranges from the first 3 positions are more narrow. Like for instance this hand:

 

[AdamasDate]

I mean going all in with kk 100bb deep is pretty standard yes AA is a real thing but you have to suck it up and let the chips fall as they may if your deeper now like 200 or 300 blinds deeps ranges are more refined