PokerStars will introduce a new feature against regulars

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Stars announced the introduction of Seat Me: it removes the ability of players to choose cache tables and seats at the table. The testing of the innovation will begin in the near future on pokerstars.es.

Translation of material from the PokerStars blog.


PokerStars is constantly looking for new ways to create a safe and fair environment for the game, as well as improving the game experience for each user. Protecting our favorite poker game is the main thing that worries us. When making decisions, we take into account our entire huge pool of players, with different needs and desires, take into account the history, evolution of the game, the latest trends. Often, our solutions are quite complex, so they can cause lively discussions.

We are trusted by a huge number of users, and therefore we should be particularly vigilant about the techniques and strategies that players use to obtain unfair advantages. We also need to make sure that we create stable conditions in which those players who follow the rules will not be at a disadvantage.

Such were our reflections and arguments before we announced today the introduction of the Seat Me function. This function is aimed at improving our cash game, namely the process of seating players - it will pass more smoothly, quickly and fairly. Seat Me removes the ability of players to choose tables and seats at the table. Instead, this function will automatically automatically randomly put the player in the game - as soon as he chooses the format of the game and the limit. This function will soon be tested on PokerStars.es, and after analyzing the results, it is likely to be launched in other markets.
Seat Me:
• greatly reduces the possibility of bamhanting
• Prevents the use of auto-fit scripts and improves the field of players - the few players who used software to exert dishonest pressure and hunt less experienced players will no longer be able to continue
• displays poker conditions offline - random selection of the table and table space
• Enter potential temporary penalties to prevent the player from breaking the game - for example, constantly changing tables, stealing blinds or refusing to play with certain opponents

Read also: The PokerStars lobby will change again

This means that monitoring the tables of the cash game in real time will no longer be available. But viewers will still be able to watch the action - they will be able to view the best moments of key hands, especially with the participation of Team PokerStars Pros.

Seat Me will continue the previous initiatives that we took in 2016 to protect our users and to improve the game's conditions:

• destruction of data mining - we were always ready for anything to completely get rid of the data mining. In 2016, we made it impossible for observers to collect hands for this purpose. We started with Zoom, then Spin & Go, and finally a cash game. We have also updated the policy on the hand charts and the policy on software from third parties, and this strict policy will have consequences for the violators. At the same time, we understand that not all players can know what is allowed and what is prohibited. Therefore, we plan to improve our communication with players in 2017.

• random selection of the opponent - all players should be able to play against a large pool of players, not just against specific opponents. And this opportunity should be for every player, not only for those who play out the maximum amount of time. So now we are testing in the Heads-up Sit & Go lobby of our Spanish client - now before the heads-up play the player will not see the opponent's nickname, which means players will be selected randomly. If the test turns out to be successful, it will be a big step forward against the auto-planting scripts, and we will be able to launch similar functions in other markets.

• Improving the structure of prize payments - the more players will have winning moments, the better will be the terms of the game and their experience. After analyzing the information and reviews of Spin & Go, we found that the smallest prize pools can be a rather annoying experience, especially if the player has a long series of such tournaments. Therefore, we slightly reduced the probability of loss of the largest prize pools, increased 4x and 6x, and reduced the frequency of falling out 2x.
 
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Stars announced the introduction of Seat Me: it removes the ability of players to choose cache tables and seats at the table. The testing of the innovation will begin in the near future on PokerStars.es.

Translation of material from the PokerStars blog.


PokerStars is constantly looking for new ways to create a safe and fair environment for the game, as well as improving the game experience for each user. Protecting our favorite poker game is the main thing that worries us. When making decisions, we take into account our entire huge pool of players, with different needs and desires, take into account the history, evolution of the game, the latest trends. Often, our solutions are quite complex, so they can cause lively discussions.

We are trusted by a huge number of users, and therefore we should be particularly vigilant about the techniques and strategies that players use to obtain unfair advantages. We also need to make sure that we create stable conditions in which those players who follow the rules will not be at a disadvantage.

Such were our reflections and arguments before we announced today the introduction of the Seat Me function. This function is aimed at improving our cash game, namely the process of seating players - it will pass more smoothly, quickly and fairly. Seat Me removes the ability of players to choose tables and seats at the table. Instead, this function will automatically automatically randomly put the player in the game - as soon as he chooses the format of the game and the limit. This function will soon be tested on PokerStars.es, and after analyzing the results, it is likely to be launched in other markets.
Seat Me:
• greatly reduces the possibility of bamhanting
• Prevents the use of auto-fit scripts and improves the field of players - the few players who used software to exert dishonest pressure and hunt less experienced players will no longer be able to continue
• displays poker conditions offline - random selection of the table and table space
• Enter potential temporary penalties to prevent the player from breaking the game - for example, constantly changing tables, stealing blinds or refusing to play with certain opponents

Read also: The PokerStars lobby will change again

This means that monitoring the tables of the cash game in real time will no longer be available. But viewers will still be able to watch the action - they will be able to view the best moments of key hands, especially with the participation of Team PokerStars Pros.

Seat Me will continue the previous initiatives that we took in 2016 to protect our users and to improve the game's conditions:

• destruction of data mining - we were always ready for anything to completely get rid of the data mining. In 2016, we made it impossible for observers to collect hands for this purpose. We started with Zoom, then Spin & Go, and finally a cash game. We have also updated the policy on the hand charts and the policy on software from third parties, and this strict policy will have consequences for the violators. At the same time, we understand that not all players can know what is allowed and what is prohibited. Therefore, we plan to improve our communication with players in 2017.

• random selection of the opponent - all players should be able to play against a large pool of players, not just against specific opponents. And this opportunity should be for every player, not only for those who play out the maximum amount of time. So now we are testing in the Heads-up Sit & Go lobby of our Spanish client - now before the heads-up play the player will not see the opponent's nickname, which means players will be selected randomly. If the test turns out to be successful, it will be a big step forward against the auto-planting scripts, and we will be able to launch similar functions in other markets.

• Improving the structure of prize payments - the more players will have winning moments, the better will be the terms of the game and their experience. After analyzing the information and reviews of Spin & Go, we found that the smallest prize pools can be a rather annoying experience, especially if the player has a long series of such tournaments. Therefore, we slightly reduced the probability of loss of the largest prize pools, increased 4x and 6x, and reduced the frequency of falling out 2x.
Anything stars can do to make the winning player not win, they will. Poker is already a complex and difficult game, especially NLHE. It's hard to find small edges. Seat and table selection is a big part of my NLHE game and is probably the only reason why I am able to win a little and beat the rake slightly.

Pokerstars does not give a damm about winning players. It's as simple as that.
 
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I believe it will be interesting making a balance in the game.... if you are a good player you don't have to be afraid of anything... even if it's not profitable...
 
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ignition / Bovada / bodog / Bodog88 has had a similar system for a while:

https://professionalrakeback.com/pai-wang-luo-introduces-quick-seating-cash-games

One result is that you are often seated alone at a table, or heads-up.
Many players close these tables immediately, and then ask to be seated again. This repeats until they find a table they like. Even if you are willing to play heads-up, you will sit there while opponents appear, realize they are heads-up, and disappear. It's frustrating.
 
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I believe it will be interesting making a balance in the game.... if you are a good player you don't have to be afraid of anything... even if it's not profitable...
I'm not a good NLHE player though lmao. Well not really lol (I have 7.8bb/100 micros over 90,000 + hands, but that is entirely table selecting huge whales. I suck against regs lol.
 
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Kinda scarry update

I dont know, do u think it gonna be ballanced?:confused:
 
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With the new changes in regular tournaments, everyone will play without sharing the limits and have no clear boundary between low and high limits, for example in Razz for $7.5 now will play and those who rolled over 2.2 and those who played in 11:(:mad::mad::eek:
 
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Now in all communities, lively discussions will begin on the topic of replacing regulars. Concerning me, I do not play cash yet, although there is certainly a negative attitude towards the future innovation. Concerning the increase in the frequency of the proliferation of multipliers in Spin-n-Go - the ratio is very positive.
 
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I think that for weak players in poker it will be more difficult to climb the limits higher - as grinders will meet them at lower limits ...
 
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I dont know, do u think it gonna be ballanced?:confused:
I don't know. For me, it's disastrous as I am huge on table selection. I find zero shame in leaving a table when I think my opponents have an edge over me or are more skilled than me and finding tables that have weaker players or fishy players that I can get the money in good a bunch of times. I think the scales are tipped towards the rec player and regs will find there winrates descend. That's just my opinion. With the Introduction of chest, the scrapping of the VIP program, the merge with slots and live casino and now this. It is apparent pokerstars do NOT want you to win anymore. It's a huge shame. And I felt like this matter is not something I could sit back and be ok with.
 
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I guess the solution is simple. Migrate to another platform which doesn't have this feature. If they see a decrease of players after this feature, they'll change.

Who knows, it might be for the best. They need to protect the fish, since they're usually are the ones fueling the poker economy with money, while regs take it away.
 
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This will definitely attract more fish to the site, I got no complaints as I use quick seat button to get into cash games anyway.
 
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I guess the solution is simple. Migrate to another platform which doesn't have this feature. If they see a decrease of players after this feature, they'll change.

Who knows, it might be for the best. They need to protect the fish, since they're usually are the ones fueling the poker economy with money, while regs take it away.
But that is the point. We want to take the money from players that are worse than us. Or at least, the players that make more mistakes than us. If the regs don't take the money from the fish, other fish will take the money from the fish anyways. My point is, the rec players are there for fun, it doesn't even matter who they play against because most of the time they simply do not care. So I can see it protecting them a little but hurting the regs in a bigger way.
 
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But that is the point. We want to take the money from players that are worse than us. Or at least, the players that make more mistakes than us. If the regs don't take the money from the fish, other fish will take the money from the fish anyways. My point is, the rec players are there for fun, it doesn't even matter who they play against because most of the time they simply do not care. So I can see it protecting them a little but hurting the regs in a bigger way.
There are players who know they aren't the smartest or most analytical who aren't full-fish. these players after reading this article will visit PS more than other rooms knowing the real sharks now have an inhibited advantage on them and this is a bonus for the real sharks who are willing to not be too careful with seating in order to have a lot of amateurs vs them.
 
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There are players who know they aren't the smartest or most analytical who aren't full-fish. these players after reading this article will visit PS more than other rooms knowing the real sharks now have an inhibited advantage on them and this is a bonus for the real sharks who are willing to not be too careful with seating in order to have a lot of amateurs vs them.
Good point. And I really hope you are right because stars is hands down my fave site. We will have to wait and see.
 
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What's wrong with stealing blinds?
 
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What's wrong with stealing blinds?
You can steal blinds even if you are stuck in your seat.

It's about stealing blinds by moving around the table the moment you spot a tight player to be before them and abusing them for playing safe by constantly doing that preflop.
 
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This solution will satisfy novice players and for regulars this is the next step from PS
 
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This solution will satisfy novice players and for regulars this is the next step from PS
But if the site keeps attracting novices and amateurs and turns away sharks isn't that going to mean the player-pool is much more friendly for a shark then? :)

People need to appreciate the cunning nature of how pokerstars works, it's making player pool so nice to eat up.
 
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it will be interesting to do game balance
 
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I do not like the idea

Okay, I explain where the profitability of the game is left, that's why we play , it is normal that this helps the beginners, but many use that option to be able to sit at the table with players who have the same amount of money as us. :confuso:
 
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You can steal blinds even if you are stuck in your seat.

It's about stealing blinds by moving around the table the moment you spot a tight player to be before them and abusing them for playing safe by constantly doing that preflop.
Ah. That's a lame strategy anyway.
 
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But if the site keeps attracting novices and amateurs and turns away sharks isn't that going to mean the player-pool is much more friendly for a shark then? :)

People need to appreciate the cunning nature of how pokerstars works, it's making player pool so nice to eat up.
You are so short sighted . Stars are removing your ability to view the tables so you have no idea who is playing and now they will control the seat that you get. They will generate the highest returns for pokerstars by sitting the winning players against each other so that their winrates plunge and sitting the losing players against each other. Their deposits are protected from being won by the winning regs so that those deposits go round and round the fish getting raked every hand and eventually it all ends up in stars pocket.

They will destroy the mtts with the new schedules making most tournaments rebuys.Immediately all the low stakes players have to move back down to microstakes in order to be rolled for the rebuysdestroying any chance of micro players moving up the stakes.
 
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You are so short sighted . Stars are removing your ability to view the tables so you have no idea who is playing and now they will control the seat that you get. They will generate the highest returns for pokerstars by sitting the winning players against each other so that their winrates plunge and sitting the losing players against each other. Their deposits are protected from being won by the winning regs so that those deposits go round and round the fish getting raked every hand and eventually it all ends up in stars pocket.

They will destroy the mtts with the new schedules making most tournaments rebuys.Immediately all the low stakes players have to move back down to microstakes in order to be rolled for the rebuysdestroying any chance of micro players moving up the stakes.
Nope, I am very long-sighted which is why I see why this benefits long-term but harms sharks short-term.

Highly publicised policies that inhibit sharks means sharks run away and amateurs move in. Ecosystem is softer... Long term cha ching :)
 
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